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#45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:57 am
by Kiov
Hello,
I just came across this #45 Victor without the dash brace, I was told that it is a "holy grail" and is very rare. How rare is this?

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:23 am
by kerbside
Hi looking at your photo the model looks like it has the dash board in it, it must be the way you have taken the photo.

Maybe you could show it again along side a normal one like this photo of mine.

Image

George T.

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:35 pm
by Idris
Having played around with the photograph, I think it is an example of the version without the dashboard brace.
Although definitely htf, the fact that the variation is not immediately obvious when the model is displayed depresses the price somewhat. Quite by chance, another braceless example sold very recently for only £31 (which I think was probably a bargain).

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:14 pm
by tjlglass
This was my sale and yes it was the real deal, now on its way to the States and the buyer has got a good bargain IMHO.

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:59 pm
by fixer
It's your listing picture Kiov has shown Timbo, if he won it it's the real deal and a right little bargain ,the first I've actually seen in hand in nearly 25 years of collecting

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:05 pm
by motorman
fixer wrote:It's your listing picture Kiov has shown Timbo, if he won it it's the real deal and a right little bargain ,the first I've actually seen in hand in nearly 25 years of collecting
I thought that it was Victor that Timbo showed us at Birmingham and it definately does not have the dash brace. Great little rarity.

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:37 pm
by tjlglass
It went very cheap and the buyer in the States has got a good bargain, it's swings and roundabouts as I done really well on the subbuteo that I bought at Sandown. Can't win them all.

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:17 am
by Kiov
Idris wrote:Having played around with the photograph, I think it is an example of the version without the dashboard brace.
Although definitely htf, the fact that the variation is not immediately obvious when the model is displayed depresses the price somewhat. Quite by chance, another braceless example sold very recently for only £31 (which I think was probably a bargain).
Thanks, I saw it on ebay and just wondering on how rare it is to have one of these. :D

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:36 am
by GHOSTHUNTER
It is a very rare model. Originally this casting WITHOUT a look-a-like dash panel was thought to exist only on models painted Red. It is relatively recent that this casting was discovered to have also been painted in Yellow, but in far fewer numbers.

I have a Vauxhall toy and model collection and have collected toys and models for many Years, I am always on the lookout for Red Victors, just for information for my files and have seen a handful of them, but I have never seen a Yellow example until the example aquired by our very own "tjlglass" (Tim), on the forum.

The price realised for this single example despite it's condition, is a real bargain.

Ghosthunter.

Re: #45a Vauxhall Victor Dash Brace Question

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:42 am
by Idris
tjlglass wrote:...I done really well on the subbuteo that I bought at Sandown.
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