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66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:32 am
by Idris
The NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (first edition) differentiates between "bronze" and "very dark bronze or copper", whilst the AIM “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) notes "metallic body colour subject to shades of light, dark or appears to be gold".
Stannard has no variations not already listed by Nick, and U.K. Matchbox only ever covered the model in a space-filler kind of way (vol. 6, no. 6 (Feb. 1983), p207) together with the 4c and 36b.
Houghton has an interesting variation listed as 66b-2: metallic light blue. This appears to be the 66b with the 4c paint, and the listing is accompanied by a photograph. Unfortunately he does not catalogue the brace variation and so it is impossible to determine the timeline for this variant. Has anyone else ever seen or heard of this model in metallic pale blue?

Please note that in Nick's catalogue listing the two variations are in the wrong order: it would be nonsensical for the strengthening brace to have been deleted later in the model's life.

Re: 66b

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 10:47 pm
by nickjones
I saw a light green 66b harley colour trial at one of the picketts lock toyfairs around 1999.
drooooool

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:07 pm
by nickjones
The 66b Harley Davidson page has been updated, George's (Kerbside) casting mod has been added and also George's photo, Thanks George.

Re: 66b

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:49 pm
by Tinman
nickjones wrote:I saw a light green 66b harley colour trial at one of the picketts lock toyfairs around 1999.
drooooool
What color green?

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:04 am
by nickjones
Hi Joe.
I saw it inside a glass fronted display cabinet so did not get to handle it, The seller was busy talking, It was heavily playworn but still in one piece.
The colour was a light green similar or possibly the same as the common light green singer van. I saw it about 20 years ago at the Picketts Lock toyfair so my memory of it is not that good, As I remember it was light green gloss but it might possibly have been light green metallic.

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:41 am
by kwakers
Even though the green color trial 66 Motorcycle looked heavily playworn Nick, it was very common for these first casting models to then be used in the factory prototype shop to 'Stress Test' the brand new castings. Being that the handlebars are so brittle on this cycle, it is amazing that the one you saw was still in one piece and unbroken. Chances are good that the cycle went home with someone straight out of the factory, but of course there were always the children of the factory workers who may have had some fun with it.......LOL
I have a pre-pro color trial from Joe Stone's collection that came out of the factory 'very playworn'. Joe was somehow able to buy quite a few of these well used factory 'specials' on one of his trips to the Lesney factory in England, and they all remained in his own collection for quite some time until it was sold complete 20+ years ago. kwakers

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:02 am
by kwakers
After reading my Post again, I have to clarify that my color trial that I mentioned is NOT a 66B Harley Motorcycle from 1962, but a 43C Pony Trailer in blue from 1968. Interestingly, it has an unpainted chassis, and only a single (prototype shop) crimped axle on it, even from that late in the regular wheel era.......kwakers

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:15 pm
by nearlymint
Just a note that the rear corner on the base can have a sharp corner or a small curve.
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J

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:12 am
by kerbside
66b bases 480x421-003.JPG
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This my photo that was on Nicks variation site, as you can see that one corner is a direct triangle not a curve.
This variation was placed on Nicks site back in 1914.
George T.

Re: 66b Harley Davidson & Sidecar

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:42 am
by nearlymint
Hi George
I am looking at the rear brace.
Cheers J