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Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:48 pm
by nearlymint
Diecast wrote:Please, check your models, if someone has code 2 or 5 with and without "floor" . I would like to make the proposal for the update of the list of 11c.
A.
Hi Antonin,
My code 1 has a smooth inner face on the wheel. My code 2 has an open floor, I do not have a code 5.
Jason

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:30 pm
by nearlymint
Hi Antonin,
Can you check the front face of the wheel to see if it has wheel nuts, I have a 6c with these front wheels but it has wheel nuts.regards Jason

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:14 am
by kwakers
Jason, Antonin, and other interested members, Please check my remarks to ford_a_30 under the '11C to 6C to an even more interesting day' Post he wrote. Rather than repeat, I believe the more detailed lugnut wheels were before either of Antonin's domed Crane styles Jason.
Damn you Antonin, LOL.....I missed that floor Post 2 years ago, and now I have never heard of the 3rd domed style wheel with 'non flat' inner surface (Or perhaps also the 4th slight dome type you mention also??), you have now shown us in this Post. I may be able to add to my 14 different 6C Dumpers and my 8 different 11C Cranes by now having to inspect them all more closely again. I will let you know about the Crane floors and Dumper front tires after I come out of shock from both of your detailed discoveries I had missed all these years........kwakers

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:57 am
by Diecast
nearlymint wrote:Hi Antonin,
Can you check the front face of the wheel to see if it has wheel nuts, I have a 6c with these front wheels but it has wheel nuts.regards Jason
Hi Jason
I have checked it, both models have the wheels without nuts.
Antonin

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:32 am
by Diecast
Hi Dick
very interesting post under the '11C to 6C, which Ford_a_30 and you discussed. I think, your opinion has a logic and all fits chronological together.
-#6c Dump Truck, white sleeved, with wheels with nuts (August 1963)
-#6c Dump Truck, black sleeved, with wheels with nuts (after August 1963)
- #6c Dump Truck, black sleeved, with wheels without nuts (first half of 1964)
- #11c Jumbo Crane with wheels without nuts, with smooth outer and inner face (June 1964)
- #11c Jumbo Crane with wheels without nuts, with smooth outer and shaped inner face (after June 1964)
I think that the wheels without nuts, with smooth outer and shaped inner face were produced for very short time. This wheels are quite rare and installing them all day long, with smaller difference between outer and inner face, was much more horror.
Antonin

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:53 am
by nearlymint
Hi Antonin,
I have a 6c with wheels that have the wheel nuts and a shaped back face not smooth.
Jason

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:59 am
by Diecast
Hi Jason
very interesting, I have to check my spare models. Do you have the wheels with nuts and shaped inner face with smooth circumference or with grooves on the circumference? Are you wheels also so deep shaped as my, or is it a concave face. Please could you be so kind and add the photo.
Antonin

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:18 am
by nearlymint
Hi Antonin,
Sorry about the picture, this is the best I could do.
J

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:12 pm
by Diecast
Hi Jason
thanks for checking it. For me it seems that your wheels are "more concave" and not "shaped". I am enclosind some photos for better understanding, what I mean by the term "convex", "concave" and "shaped".
Antonin

Re: 11c Jumbo Crane - unlisted variation

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:16 pm
by nearlymint
Yes Antonin, thanks for the pictures. I can see I have the concave wheels on the 6c.
Jason