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fixer wrote:Never seen any in white double or single...

I've never even heard of the existence of white axle clips!

Is this white clip in the "raw" state having missed the colour dye process entirely? Just a thought.

White one maybe one of the first trials, the model also has no PAT APP on the base either. But I did see one many years ago in a beater box, never realised at the time how special it was. J

I dont expect to find a white clip any time soon. That is rare Jason and the first i have seen.

This is becoming impossible for the rest of us...during any conversation to collectors..."did you see that Matchbox Bus with Green lower seats but Red upper seats the other Day"...

..."no of course not, don't be silly, they would never make something as daft as that"...

..."yes they do, that Guy Jason has one"...

How far are we from the truth...!

So, if we just pluck odd coloured components out of the air and pretend they exist on models...guess who is likely to have an example...King Midas!

Jason, I do not know how you do it, but I am bloody glad you are with us on this forum, nice one, again!!!

Ghosty.

nearlymint wrote:...I did see one many years ago in a beater box, never realised at the time how special it was.

Was that also a double clip on a Greyhound?

motorman wrote:Is this white clip in the "raw" state having missed the colour dye process entirely? Just a thought.

There is no dye process. The color is in the raw plastic pellets. If they want a red clip or interior they choose red pellets and so on through the colors. When the plastic part is molded, the color selection is a deliberate process.

Tinman wrote:

motorman wrote:Is this white clip in the "raw" state having missed the colour dye process entirely? Just a thought.

There is no dye process. The color is in the raw plastic pellets. If they want a red clip or interior they choose red pellets and so on through the colors. When the plastic part is molded, the color selection is a deliberate process.

The amounts of plastic Lesney used in the 1960s it is quite possible they made their own pellets because we know Jack Odell custom designed and built his own machinery and was a leader not a follower in development of machinery to operate his own tools. Ivory seems to be a default colour for Lesney in the 1960s with black appearing only in YY range prior to 1969 aside from obvious wheels + tyres ...........

Idris wrote:

nearlymint wrote:...I did see one many years ago in a beater box, never realised at the time how special it was.

Was that also a double clip on a Greyhound?

Yes it was also on a Greyhound, perhaps one of the first double clips.

SMS88 wrote:The amounts of plastic Lesney used in the 1960s it is quite possible they made their own pellets because we know Jack Odell custom designed and built his own machinery and was a leader not a follower in development of machinery to operate his own tools. Ivory seems to be a default colour for Lesney in the 1960s with black appearing only in YY range prior to 1969 aside from obvious wheels + tyres ...........

I'm thinking: No! Because pellets is how the "raw plastic" has been made/sold since the start of the process of molded plastic components. For thermoplastics, once various hydrocarbons are obtained from cracking, they are chemically processed to make hydrocarbon monomers and other carbon monomers (like styrene, vinyl chloride, acrylonitrile) used in plastics.

Next, the monomers carry out polymerization reactions in large polymerization plants. The reactions produce polymer resins, which are collected and further processed. Processing can include the addition of plasticizers, dyes and flame-retardant chemicals. The final polymer resins are in the forms of pellets or beads (and for some highly specific uses, powders). So to be clear as possible: The addition of dyes, additives and pellet formation happens during the polymerization process.

Once the product is complete and in the form of beads or pellets,the product is ready to be bulk packaged and shipped to manufacturers. Finally, the polymer resins are processed into final plastic products. Generally, they are heated, molded and allowed to cool. There are several processes involved in this stage, depending upon the type of product.