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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:57 am
by misterpop
Without me wading back through 16 pages.Has anyone mentioned the Chinese connection "Yum Yum dim sum"? Very similar font..

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:32 pm
by Idris
misterpop wrote:Without me wading back through 16 pages.Has anyone mentioned the Chinese connection "Yum Yum dim sum"? Very similar font..
"No" is the simple answer.
Could you please post a link to the "Yum Yum Dim Sum" you've found in a similar font? (I thought I'd found it, right colour too, but it turned out to be a book cover!)

(Dim sum! Mmmmmmmmmmmmm! Yum Yum indeed!)

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:03 pm
by misterpop
Thought I had it there..See what you mean about a book...




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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:36 pm
by motorman
So many manufacturers over the years have used the phrase "Yum Yum" purely to describe how delicious there product is. Lets face it it is a very common phrase, my kids use it all the time when they are stuffing their faces with chocolate!!!.

I think It will be very difficult to associate the SF19's to any particular manufacturer unless some very convincing secondary evidence comes to light.......like a copy of an order on Headed paper to Matchbox, England for a number of promo SF#19's in "Yum Yum" yellow!!!! :D

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:40 pm
by Idris
I think that the yellow colour rather than the "Yum Yum" phrase will ultimately provide the key to unlocking this puzzle.

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:53 pm
by SMS88
Idris wrote:I think that the yellow colour rather than the "Yum Yum" phrase will ultimately provide the key to unlocking this puzzle.
I agree, the facts that are turning up do seem to point this way as being most likely.
Yum Yum yellow was a bust because while it is very bright, unlike the current standard safety colours which are unique shades of pink, orange and greenish yellow not seen on non safety items, Yum Yum yellow is just a brighter version of a common standard yellow tone that was very fashionable back in 1971-72 (hard to tell it apart from popular Ford Europe ´Daytona yellow!)

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:48 pm
by motorman
Could someone please explain this tenuous relationship between the yellow SF#19 and "Safety colours". I am sorry but i just cannot see the connection......... Yellow is Yellow.........at least it was when i last looked at a B & Q colour chart.

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:52 am
by misterpop
B and Q colour chart...I will pick some up from work tonight and spread them on here for all your perusal....By the way.....Wasnt there a ban on yellow car paint back in the early 70s due to lead content?...Maybe why certain MB cars where trialed but never made in bulk in yellow.....More discusion possibly.

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:27 am
by Idris
motorman wrote:Could someone please explain this tenuous relationship between the yellow SF#19 and "Safety colours". I am sorry but i just cannot see the connection
I think that Mick’s logic is that, by the time these models were manufactured (probably 1971), Lesney has moved away from what Mick terms “candy coats” (which I take to mean a semi-transparent coloured lacquer coat over a light undercoat) in favour of more exciting (but unrealistic) metallic paints. It is therefore reasonable to assume that the Yum Yum 19d Lotus was painted with a “candy coat” yellow at the insistence of the customer. In this case the primer/undercoat is white which has led Mick to assume that the yellow is actually a safety colour since DayGlo-type paints are layered in the same way.

Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:18 am
by SMS88
Idris wrote:
motorman wrote:Could someone please explain this tenuous relationship between the yellow SF#19 and "Safety colours". I am sorry but i just cannot see the connection
I think that Mick’s logic is that, by the time these models were manufactured (probably 1971), Lesney has moved away from what Mick terms “candy coats” (which I take to mean a semi-transparent coloured lacquer coat over a light undercoat) in favour of more exciting (but unrealistic) metallic paints. It is therefore reasonable to assume that the Yum Yum 19d Lotus was painted with a “candy coat” yellow at the insistence of the customer. In this case the primer/undercoat is white which has led Mick to assume that the yellow is actually a safety colour since DayGlo-type paints are layered in the same way.
The #8 Wildcat and #62 Ratrod were also still in production then in candycoats over primer -they could have been even brighter if applied over white primer as Corgi Rockets did with their safety coloured cars in 1970!