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Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:20 pm
by MOKOSEX
Idris wrote:
Tinman wrote:Do you mean the tipper stops?
It's the part of the chassis which the tipper pivot passes through.
The tipper body lug was made thicker on the outer edge,the middle was already thick,the chassis thicknesses have already been noted.
dave

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:52 am
by yellowfoden
MOKOSEX wrote:The lugs on the chassis and the tipper body are thin on the pre pro.
dave
Hello mokosex,
Is there any chance we could see a side view photo of your pre-pro 51c ? It looks like an interesting colour scheme.
Thanks.

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:48 am
by Idris
MOKOSEX wrote:...the chassis thicknesses have already been noted...
...but not in Nick's variation table!

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:01 am
by MOKOSEX
yellowfoden wrote:
MOKOSEX wrote:The lugs on the chassis and the tipper body are thin on the pre pro.
dave
Hello mokosex,
Is there any chance we could see a side view photo of your pre-pro 51c ? It looks like an interesting colour scheme.
Thanks.
Heres a side view of all my pre pro/colour trials
dave

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:10 am
by MOKOSEX
Idris wrote:
MOKOSEX wrote:...the chassis thicknesses have already been noted...
...but not in Nick's variation table!
But we can say now the thin ones came first :D ,it will be interesting to see how rare/common the thin lugs are,its not something i have gone out and looked for.
dave

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:05 am
by Idris
MOKOSEX wrote:But we can say now the thin ones came first :D ,it will be interesting to see how rare/common the thin lugs are,its not something i have gone out and looked for.
Since thickening the chassis rails would not only require the removal of metal from the tooling but would also result in a stronger casting, it seems certain that the thinner ones represent the initial design. However, the catalogues I have reviewed seem to indicate that substantial stocks of these initial chassis castings were held in stock and so appeared on a significant number of later issues. (Who needs FIFO stock-keeping anyway?)

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:30 am
by nearlymint
This was one I found Nov/2013 with thin chassis not sure where I added it though. Nicks code 4.
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Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:15 pm
by Brad Pittiful
i have a yellow colored with the thin chassis rails...was this left over from the pre production days and they were done with painting these orange and into the yellow phase of this model and thats how this ended up in yellow?

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Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:32 pm
by Idris
Brad Pittiful wrote:i have a yellow colored with the thin chassis rails...was this left over from the pre production days and they were done with painting these orange and into the yellow phase of this model and thats how this ended up in yellow?
I don't think these thin chassis rail versions can be considered pre-production castings: they merely represent the first version of the chassis. In typical Lesney fashion, stocks were laid down but, when the casting was modified, the stockroom was not completely emptied of the initial versions. This resulted in the appearance of thin-railed chassis castings significantly out of timeline as tins/boxes of the first type chassis surfaced and were taken into production.

Re: 51c AEC 8-Wheel Tipper

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:58 am
by yellowfoden
MOKOSEX wrote:
yellowfoden wrote:
MOKOSEX wrote:The lugs on the chassis and the tipper body are thin on the pre pro.
dave
Hello mokosex,
Is there any chance we could see a side view photo of your pre-pro 51c ? It looks like an interesting colour scheme.
Thanks.
Heres a side view of all my pre pro/colour trials
dave
Thanks for adding the photo mokosex, I had not seen the 51c in those colours before. A nice little line up you have shown. Much appreciated.