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6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:03 am
by Idris
The NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (second edition) lists, as variation 6-2A, a model with c/a (and therefore presumably identical to Nick's variation code 1) without decals. I have seen a significant number of these myself and would agree that it is a deliberate variation rather than simply an 'oops'.
Neither AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) nor Stannard,lists any variation not already catalogued by Nick.
Houghton has a pair of models with silver-trimmed headlights: his variation code 6b-1 is otherwise a match for Nick's variation code 1, and his variation code 6b-3 is similarly otherwise a match for Nick's variation code 3. His variation code 6b-13 matches Nick's variation code 2 but has the tipper crossbrace. Since the GPW c/a model with the tipper crossbrace (i.e. Nick's variation code 2) is not listed, and the no other catalogue has an entry matching Houghton's 6b-13, I would suggest that this is an error in the table. Finally Houghton has paired listings: variation codes 6b-6 and 6b-7 match Nick's variation code 7, variation codes 6b-9 and 6b-10 match Nick's variation code 8, and variation codes 6b-11 and 6b-12 match Nick's variation code 9. In each case, the domed head of the tipper rivet is painted yellow in the first variation, and remains unpainted in the second.
U.K. Matchbox examined the model in vol. 8 no. 2 (Jun. '84) p46 but did not list any new variations.

It should be noted that a number of Members have shown photographs of models with silver-trimmed radiators on the Forum suggesting that this is a valid, early variation.

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:29 am
by Diecast
A small summary. There are some unlisted variations. The rear wheels could be:
a) BPW ø12 x 30
b) BPW ø12,5 x 30

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:38 am
by Diecast
the bucket hinge (strange, but I am still looking for dome head crimped rivet. Have anyone seen it?):
a) biff rivet round riveted
b) biff rivet chisel riveted
c) dome head rounded rivet
some biff rivets have a small yellow shade
Antonin

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:57 am
by Diecast
Tipper:
a) without any brace
b) with pin brace, without cross brace
c) with pin brace, with cross brace

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:08 am
by Idris
Antonin, what are your opinions of:
1)the silver-trimmed radiator grille variation, and
2) the no-decal variation?

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:13 am
by Diecast
Idris wrote:Antonin, what are your opinions of:
1)the silver-trimmed radiator grille variation, and
2) the no-decal variation?
I am still looking for the silver trim variation (I have only seen the silver trim variation :cry: ). I have the no-decal variation mint without any trace of the decal. My no-decal variation has the biff rivet round riveted. I suppose that the silver trim variation has the biff rivet round riveted also. I think both variations should be listed.
Antonin

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:34 am
by Diecast
a) light yellow
b) dark yellow

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:14 am
by Diecast
A proposal of a new list. Please comments.
Antonin

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:46 pm
by yellowfoden
Diecast wrote:A proposal of a new list. Please comments.
Antonin
Hello Antonin and Hugh,

My own version of the 6b with NO decals match the variation details as Antonin has stated.
I have also observed over the years we have had six members show their no decal variation.

I have yet to add the silver grille variation to my fleet. I have only ever found versions that I believed were hand trimmed which included some fine trim to the lights and bumper

In your proposed listing I note the MS silver trim model you list with NO decal. In the past we have seen Greg (about May 2012) show an example but this was WITH decals.

Bert

Re: 6b Euclid Quarry Truck

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:07 pm
by kerbside
Hello Antonin , my one with Silver trim radiator has a chiseled end Biff rivet and has decals the one with-out decals has the Biff rivet riveted.

George T.