64a Scammell Breakdown Truck

[Idris]

The NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (first edition) lists a variation at 64-1-d which has 12.5 x 30 BPW, C/A and a GP hook. (Unfortunately, neither the body casting variations nor the hook length are reported.) Since Nick lists 14 variations, only the first three of which have C/A and only the last two of which have a GP hook, this seems a highly unlikely combination. Can anyone confirm it's existence
Neither the AIM “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983), nor Houghton nor Stannard lists a variation not already covered by Nick. U.K. Matchbox covered the model in Vol. 7, no. 5 (Dec. '83) p171, with a follow-up in Vol. 7, no. 6 (Feb. '84) p209, but did not identify any variations not covered by Nick.

[Diecast]

In my opinion there is only one length by the green hooks. Everything else is just optical illusion
Antonin

[Diecast]

On the other hand, in my opinion, there are at least two unlisted type of wheels:
A) ø12,55x30 = BPW ø12,5x30 - listed
B) ø12,13x30 = BPW ø12,0x30 - unlisted
C) ø12,55x40 = BPW ø12,5x40 - listed
D) ø11,49x45 = BPW ø11,5x45 - unlisted
Antonin

[Idris]

In my opinion there is only one length by the green hooks. Everything else is just optical illusion
Antonin

That makes a lot of sense, otherwise it is difficult to explain the sporadic appearance of an over-length hook.

[Diecast]

In my opinion there is only one length by the green hooks. Everything else is just optical illusion
Antonin

That makes a lot of sense, otherwise it is difficult to explain the sporadic appearance of an over-length hook.

I agree with you Hugh, different sporadic lenght of the green hook has no sence.
Antonin

[Diecast]

There are two casting variations, by the windscreen (2x) and by the gap between the cab and the body (3x). Stannard and Nick has mentioned three variation of the gap between cab and body. I think that there are four variations:
A) channel behind the cab has no infill
B) channel behind the cab has two small infills at both ends
C) channel behind the cab has a large infill on the left side
D) channel behind the cab has a very large infill on the left side

[kwakers]

On looking in my second printing January of 1973 NAMC catalog Hugh, Bob must have corrected the error you suspected in his first printing. The only crimped axle variation he lists there has the green metal 6 sided counter weight hook.
In looking at my own cataloging, I only show all my metal hooks being 18 mm in length by my measurements, while all our plastic hooks are cataloged to be closer to 20mm in length. That is the length Stannard cataloged on all of these plastic hooks, so I have never measured them. I am sure Antonin is correct if he says the hooks are all 18 MM in length on this Military Wrecker. kwakers

[Tinman]

The Scammell and the Thames wreckers were introduced only months apart and ended production at the same time. They shared metal and plastic hooks. If a specific hook is found on one, it will also be found on the other. There is more than one size metal hook recorded in several catalogs. So either the various catalogs are wrong and their is only one size metal hook or there are shorter/longer hooks out there. People need to be checking all their 13c models as well (because if it's found on one it will turn up on the other).

[johnboy]

I wonder if the metal hooks were just measured from the top to bottom. On these example the ropes/cables are the same but the actual hooks at the end are different sizes. I know the one on the right is slightly off centre, but the curved shape of the hooks are the same on both. The right example also has a very slightly longer neck above the hook.

[Tinman]

That looks like a longer hook to me.