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M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:15 pm
by DrJeep
I was fortunate enough to find a hybrid
Guy Warrior car transporter with the Major Pack cab and King Size trailer. I finally got round to giving it a light clean and took the opportunity to compare it with the other two transporters I have - an M8b and the K8 I've had since at a guess Christmas 1968.
I've spotted quite a few casting differences though I'm sure there are many more. I think my M8b is quite early but it doesn't have the black letters outlined in white.
First, the front of the trailer. My M8 has a smooth front; both K8s have a recessed panel.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:20 pm
by DrJeep
turned upside down, the same area has a couple of casting changes. On the M8b and the early K8 trailer, the pivot pin is supported on a single rectangular brace. On the later K8, the brace extends to the full width of the trailer and there's a new rectangular brace in front of the existing brace. There are also two prominent ejector rings on the later trailer.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:28 pm
by DrJeep
The ramp is also different. The K8 has two ridges. The rear of the trailer has a couple of other changes too. Most obvious is the full width brace under the ramp.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:32 pm
by DrJeep
The arms that hold the upper deck were also changed, from a rather elegant 6 mm width parallel-sided arm to a 7 mm wide arm that tapers to the original profile at the top.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:45 pm
by DrJeep
There's also extra bracing around the back axle of the K8.
(Edit - replaced with a better picture).
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:02 am
by zBret
Those are interesting and note worthy differences Glenn, thanks for sharing . I really like the transporter models also.
I'm not sure if it's the angle on the photo, but I noticed that the upper grill on the cab in the center of the photo below appears to be narrower than the others.
zBret
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:48 pm
by DrJeep
Well spotted, Gene! Here's the same picture zoomed in. The late M8b on the left is the one with the K8 trailer, and its grill is all rather fuzzy, so that it looks out of focus in the picture but isn't. I think the upper grill is the same width but a little shallower, and the number plate is illegible. In the K8 on the right it's all sharp again, but the number plate is a little larger than in the original M8. I'll take a few clearer pictures in the daylight. Note also the colour difference - the M8 has an undercoat that make the turquoise darker.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:08 pm
by DrJeep
In response to zBret's question, here are the three cabs photographed separately and pasted together. It still looks like the middle grill is shorter but I think it's just that the paint on this one is very thick and is covering some of the detail. I think this thick turquoise paint combined with poor quality silver paint gives the indistinct appearance to the number plate as well.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:19 pm
by DrJeep
For completeness, here are some more casting differences. Nearly all of these are noted on the
M8b page, so I don't think I've discovered anything new.
The slide area was thickened.
Re: M8b - K8 Guy car transporter casting differences
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:25 pm
by DrJeep

- late M8, early M8
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There are a couple of differences on the cab. Triangular supports were added at the back of the cab.
Above the back axle a strengthener was added, with two prominent ejector rings.