Unusual 42B Studebaker Wagonaire

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Unusual 42B Studebaker Wagonaire

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OK gang, I'm eager to get input on this one from the regular wheel regulars!
So you know, this model came from the September "ex-Lesney employee" auction with Vectis.
It is a 42B Studebaker Wagonaire painted in what seems to be a totally unique blue-green. The roof slide seems to be an ordinary light blue but the body casting is uniformly coated in a blue-green that doesn't really totally match anything on my collection shelf. I've attached some photos for review. Let me know what you think best explains this model. Lunch-box special? Fake/modified? The base has a tow guide. The roof slide does NOT have the "B" on the underside.

Side-by-side with a conventional 42B:
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Color comparison with other models in the blue-green range of shades:
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Hi Greg, Thanks for sharing. I don't quite know what to make of this, as the roof slider color seems to have great similarity to that on the "standard" color wagon to the right. As we know, this piece comes in a number of shades / colors for the body. I also see that the interior seems to have more a cream color than the one on the right.
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Hi Ethan, Thanks for your observations and good hearing from you. Yes, the roof slider is dead on to the light blue slider on my typical blue bodied example. The interior was filthy dirty with dusty crap from being on display for a number of years. It's had a good scrubbing now and looks somewhat better. If you look at the base photo you'll see hints that the interior is a regular white insert.
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Hi Greg, interesting item. The interior does look Cream from above but then White inside the wheel-arches, so I am not sure whats going on there.

Rivets, we love our rivets on this forum don't we... :D , I must confess as soon as I saw those on your Studebaker, they are saying something to me and initially they look fine, but for me the flare-over on each rivet seems to be far too flat against the surrounding baseplate area, can you do another side by side picture of the Two Studes baseplates, so we can see known factory finish rivets against the mystery model, thank's.

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Your last post sneaked in just before posting mine and you have now answered the interior colour comments, so you can now ignore what I said about it... :D

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Kevin, here are the front rivets for comparison:

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Here are the rear:

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When we discussed this model at some length on Lefora, one of the things which came out was the use of two-coat paints on later issues. (This was proposed as the reason why many Studebaker Larks are so difficult to photograph correctly.)
When I saw thus particular example listed, my assumption was therefore that it is a model which has received only the first coat of paint. I would therefore suggest trying comparing the colour to that showing through on the chips on any playworn examples you may have.
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This Studebaker is interesting. The glazing looks like it is yellow tinted. The side view with the white background shows it well.
Could the glazing have been exposed to some chemical?
Curiouser and curiouser!
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Thank's Greg for the additional pictures.

I agree with Hugh on the colour issue, that could be quite revealing but now I have seen both cars rivets, I am convinced the model does not have factory finish rivets. The front rivet shows indentations around the flare more than the rear rivet does, but more revealing is there are no paint shavings squashed between the underside of the flare and the baseplate immediately under the flare highlighted on the picture below.
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What is highlighted in Red is perfectly normal factory finish and the result of the rivet's shaft being a close fit into the baseplate's hole causing the scraping of paint and then bunching up of this paint to become trapped under the rivet's flare when the rivet is pressed or spun down to the baseplate. This is very difficult to fake and this is what I don't see on the mystery Studebaker for both rivets.

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Could lengthy exposure to sunlight have caused this paint shade and the discolouration to the glazing?
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