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9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:24 am
by Macdonald
Greetings all. All the guides for RW 9D Boat and Trailer variations (non Superfast) mention only a white hull and white interior. I have models with definite cream color plastic hulls and interiors. They are not sunfade (pictures attached). Has there been discussion about adding cream colored hulls and interiors as variations. There is a definite difference. Perhaps it would lead to too many variations. Would love to know the opinions of the forum members. Perhaps Nick has already been down this road and has an answer. Thanks all. Cheers, Macdonald

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:28 am
by tractorboy
There was mention of tan hull here and mention of tan deck and white hull here.

I used the Search button at the top right
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Found this is a quick way to search through threads for information - though often find myself getting sidetracked :D

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:42 am
by GHOSTHUNTER
Excellent, no harm in a bit of sidetracking... :D

If we knew the full 'Time-Line' of this boat, I would not be surprised to find out that a different mix of plastic has been used for the mouldings, as in everyday life we have stuff that tends to discolour rather quickly when left exposed out of their containers and to me the Creamy-Tan hulls have just gone 'Off Colour' as a lot of White plastics do and again this is one model we would like to see in it's earliest form but still blister packed and an identical model from exactly the same year of issue out of packaging, just to see how they look.

Ghosthunter.

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:50 am
by Idris
GHOSTHUNTER wrote:If we knew the full 'Time-Line' of this boat, I would not be surprised to find out that a different mix of plastic has been used for the mouldings, as in everyday life we have stuff that tends to discolour rather quickly when left exposed out of their containers and to me the Creamy-Tan hulls have just gone 'Off Colour' as a lot of White plastics do and again this is one model we would like to see in it's earliest form but still blister packed and an identical model from exactly the same year of issue out of packaging, just to see how they look.
Although what you say may be true, I do not think that we can completely discount the sporadic use of off-white to very light coffee coloured plastic by Lesney. We have seen it on the 9d boat, the Fire Station, at least one garage, and don't forget the 14c Lomas interior. The fact that the colour is uniform shows clearly that it is not a product of environmental factors (such as sunlight). It either started out that colour (my position), or underwent some kind of chemical change 9your position).

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:56 am
by GHOSTHUNTER
I agree, I don't think it is down to Sunfade at all, I believe they started out that way, but when spanking brand new, the colouring is stable, but once out of a controlled environment the packaging) something becomes unstable and the White just gives up being White.

Ghosthunter.

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:40 am
by Rob
I have also seen various examples of the boats that Macdonald shows above. The 12b Setra Coach is another example from the same period which can have different shades of white with the roof colour, from white to cream like the hulls on the boats, quite possibly from different variations of coloured plastics used. Other later 1970's SF models with the same type of roof differences are the 65b Airport Coach and 69c Security Truck.

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:01 pm
by Malibu
Hi Macdonald,

I´m shure this is caused by sunfade.
Have a look under the left seat of the right boat in your second picture.
The plastic is much brighter there.

Stephan

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:32 pm
by Idris
Malibu wrote:I´m shure this is caused by sunfade.
Have a look under the left seat of the right boat in your second picture.
The plastic is much brighter there.
Looking again, I think you may well be correct as far as the one on the right of the photograph is concerned.
However, the one on the left is much more even in colour, and I think this model has an off-white ("tan") plastic component, namely the inner deck.

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:37 pm
by Miller
The greenish one also could be from a smokers collection ;)

Re: 9D Boat and Trailer variation question

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:39 pm
by Macdonald
tractorboy wrote:There was mention of tan hull here and mention of tan deck and white hull here.

I used the Search button at the top right
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Found this is a quick way to search through threads for information - though often find myself getting sidetracked :D
Thank you for the search! What a great resource. Macdonald