37b Karrier Bantam "Coca Cola" Bottle Float

[Idris]

The NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (second edition) notes that two shades of yellow exist for both the GPW and BPW models. Furthermore, the final BPW model (variation code 37-3G) is listed as being in a distinct pale yellow (and with or without silver trim, which might point to it being the final issue). Can any member confirm this pale yellow variation and provide details of the wheels?
The AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) does not contain any variations not already listed by Nick, but does comment on there being both light and dark GPW (an observation also made by Houghton). It also states that "all models come in various shades", a view shared by Leake ("Concise Catalogue of 75 Series Matchbox Toys by Lesney" (4th edition, reprinted 2006)) and U.K. Matchbox.
Neither Stannard nor Houghton list any variations not already covered by Nick.
U.K. Matchbox examined the model in vol. 3, no. 7 (Sept. '79) p128 but did not identify any variations not already listed.

It should be remembered that Antonin has shown us an interesting model with what appears to be a one-piece decal above the load.

It should be noted that various catalogues (such as Houghton and U.K. Matchbox) split the even- and uneven-load 37a Coca-Cola Truck into two separate models, thereby making the final "Coca Cola" Bottle Float 37c rather than 37b.

[yellowfoden]

Can any member confirm this pale yellow variation and provide details of the wheels?
..... but does comment on there being both light and dark GPW (an observation also made by Houghton). It also states that "all models come in various shades", a view shared by Leake ("Concise Catalogue of 75 Series Matchbox Toys by Lesney" (4th edition, reprinted 2006)) and U.K. Matchbox.

This is my version of lighter shade.
The lighter shade with bpw is between two normal colour models with gpw
The black plastic wheels are 8.0mm x 18 tread count.
For reference I have added the dark gpw ca and light gpw ra in third photo.

Regards
Bert

[Tinman]

Just making a comment reporting the value of such photos (concerning monitors, cameras, etc.).
In the first photo, my monitor shows them as all identical in color.
In the second photo, the right hand model looks brighter and the left hand model looks slightly shadowed and both are nearly identical in color.
No difference in the third photo.

Images on your monitor may and will vary. In no way could I personally use any of those images for any discussion, determination or reference.

[GHOSTHUNTER]

It is difficult doing what we do with domestic equipment. Why do we think professional equipment costs so much, to try and reduce such problems as far as possible.

Domestic Camera manufactures will do their dammdest to convince us that their product is the best at doing what Cameras are designed for, but each company will set up their equipment to their way of thinking of how colours should be rendered, the same goes for computers, there are no standards for such settings and on-line review websites and magazines waist hours of their time testing such equipment to find the best compromise for any given piece of equipment.

If everybody used the same Camera and the same computer, it would still show up the problems highlighted by Joe above in his comment, because we all see colours and shades differently.

We have touched on this subject in previous threads about monitors and laptop screens showing different or NO differences in shades on our models, I do not know of a way round this, but would probably involve multiple copies of the same pictures viewed on multiple screens, then an averaging process to determin the final colour or shade, lets just enjoy our models in the many colours that each one of us can see.

GHOSTHUNTER.

[Idris]

I can see the differences in Bert's photographs, both on my monitor at work and here, at home, on my laptop. However, the difference in the yellows does not show as being particularly striking.

[Tinman]

Of course you have to factor in the previously discussed inability of many men (and some women) to discern minor shade differences (factor that in on top of camera and monitor differences and the problem is even worse).

[kerbside]

On my monitor I can see the different colours. here are three of mine with the lighter Yellow one in the middle it has Light Grey Wheels and
they are 8 x 18 tread with the type "A" decal on the rear and the smaller type decals to the side.

I hope this photo shows the colour difference on your monitor Joe (Tinman)



George T.

[kay]

Hi all,

I just started sorting my spare Regular Wheels as a preparation for next year (...season ?? of "RW Collecting").
Inbetween my models I noticed a 37b with smaller black wheels than the standard ones- usually the 18 tread black plastic wheels are about 8.1 mm in diameter, but the smaller ones I found are about 7.35 mm.







Has anyone noticed this before?
Kay

[ChFalkensteiner]

This is new to me; thanks for pointing it out!

These must be the wheels normally found on 16b, 20b, 35a, 48b, 55a, 56a and 58a. I have not heard of them being found on 37b before, but it is a somewhat logical occurrence, i.e. not entirely unexpected.

Grey wheels of this smaller dimension might also exist on this model. Confirmation awaited...

[Diecast]

Nice spotted Kay, similar variation is by 35a also
Antonin