Model identification needed

[Viewfield]

Found these hidding in a cupboard, possibly home made, but not by me!. They must be around 25 years old and no signs or makers names anywhere. About 10 cm (4") Long. Ideas who made them?

Rod

[cOO7rgi]

I can't help you with the maker but the prototype of the models seems to be the Auto Union Typ D (or C).

The models remind me of the much older (made shortly after the 2nd world war) Auto Union Typ A from KBK.


(Vectis)

[nickjones]

Rod, The lighter blue car appears to have a makers mark under the nose of the car, I can't make it out though.

[Viewfield]

Rod, The lighter blue car appears to have a makers mark under the nose of the car, I can't make it out though.

I hadn't noticed that, Nick. Here is a better view.


By the way, after scrutiny the nose is at the other end!



Rod

[matchbox_n_molars]

This is a tiny little model of the Type C Auto Union racers that I have here at the office. It is clear so you can see the inner works of the drivetrain details. It seems they all had this flat grilled face and tapered tail with the driver quite far forward. Sorry about the focus issues. This camera likes teeth better than toys.
Yours are fun little models Rod but I'm clueless on the maker even with the mark that Nick pointed out.

[kay]

It seems they all had this flat grilled face and tapered tail with the driver quite far forward.

Yes, Greg - the huge V16 (!!) motor in the Auto Union C type was placed behind the driver, and it was nearly impossible to keep the car under control while driving races!
Nevertheless it was one of the most successful German Grand Prix racing cars in the 30's, and it archieved 30 world speed records!
in two weeks I'm visiting the Horch (Audi) Museum in Zwickau, and they have a factory built replica of this car on display - so I'm going to take a few pictures there.

Your model was made in 2002 by the German company Busch, it is in 1:87 scale and is limited to 2500 pieces.

Here's a link to an old ebay auction where one of the cars in the lot looks like Rod's cars - and it seems to have the same mark.
The seller says it might be a "KBK" (Kurt Becker KG) model which was only made in 1947.
The ebay model is unpainted, so maybe Rod's cars are repaints (the paint looks rather thick and glossy).

http://www.ebay.de/itm/111650850540

Kay

[nickjones]

It seems they all had this flat grilled face and tapered tail with the driver quite far forward.

Yes, Greg - the huge V16 (!!) motor in the Auto Union C type was placed behind the driver, and it was nearly impossible to keep the car under control while driving races!
Nevertheless it was one of the most successful German Grand Prix racing cars in the 30's, and it archieved 30 world speed records!
in two weeks I'm visiting the Horch (Audi) Museum in Zwickau, and they have a factory built replica of this car on display - so I'm going to take a few pictures there.

Your model was made in 2002 by the German company Busch, it is in 1:87 scale and is limited to 2500 pieces.

Here's a link to an old ebay auction where one of the cars in the lot looks like Rod's cars - and it seems to have the same mark.
The seller says it might be a "KBK" (Kurt Becker KG) model which was only made in 1947.
The ebay model is unpainted, so maybe Rod's cars are repaints (the paint looks rather thick and glossy).

http://www.ebay.de/itm/111650850540

Kay

Thanks Kay, That would explain why Rod's cars have the axles painted in the body colour but black painted wheels.

[Viewfield]

That Looks like the answer, thanks a lot people!
Made in 1947, that's older than me!
I would also say that the models are repainted.

Rod

[cOO7rgi]

Sorry, but the KBK models are pictured in the Vectis photo and are of much better quality. The ebay seller wrote that the car could be from Mahle, KBK or Schildkröt as they all made Auto Unions - he doesn't write that the model actually is from one of the mentioned companies.

But as it is now quite clear that they are not home-made and not 25 years old but much older, I would think that the model could even be from the immediate pre-war period. I still think it's more likely supposed to be a Typ D than a Type C.

[GHOSTHUNTER]

I agree with "007", plus the 'KBK' models I have seen, have separate rubber tyres on bare metal rims and the 'Logo' on Rod's medium Blue model is triangular, where as 'KBK' uses Three diamonds, with 'K B K' inside.

I would like to see a clearer picture of the logo on the Blue model's rear-end.

GHOSTHUNTER.