James Bond DB5 Dilemma

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James Bond DB5 Dilemma

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I've finally decided to buy a Corgi James Bond Aston Martin DB5, especially considering I already own the "bad guy" that is usually missing from the ejection seat (found it in a carry case lot along with thirty or more Matchboxes and a few other Corgi parts, belonging to the Black Beauty and Batmobile). I've encountered a problem though, I can't differentiate between the remakes and the original. Could anyone give me a guide between the originals and reproductions, as it seems this has been a favorite of Corgi to reproduce.

I've included pics of the bases of the two I'm considering purchasing. The first, I think is an original. The second, the seller claims is a remake, but I'm not too sure about that.

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Hi Cody.
I'm pretty sure the second one is the original, It has tire slashers on one of the rear wheels and comes with rubber tires, The later one has speedwheels, But please don't take my word for it because I don't know much about Corgi's, Wait for someone to confirm what I am saying is correct before buying either.
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i think the 1st pic is of the toy range 1/36th scale model, very basic, the 2nd one is 1/43rd and a better model, as its made in England i say its not the remake
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Let us see a photo of the bad guy you have for the ejector seat so that we can see if he came out of a Husky model (all red) or if small handpainted came out of the 1966-75 1/43 versions or larger from the 1/36 issue.
Jeff is correct, the 1st one is a worth next to nothing 1/36 model scale made in the final days of UK Corgi.
The 2nd example with NEW cast on the baseplate is the proper 1/43 scale original from 1969-75 that replaced the smaller original 1/45 gold 1966-69. There is also the 3inch DB6 version with red baddie which came as Husky, Corgi Juniors and Corgi versions 1969-80.
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I would advise you that the silver 1/43 model with extending red tyre slashers and NEW cast on the baseplate as the only one to that scale and made 1969-75 is the only one worth buying as a collector. The smaller gold one is the original 1966 released when Goldfinger was in cinemas -all are gold and its a bit small. If you want a gold one I have a spare in lightly playworn condition missing baddie and roof available seen here on the right for US$10 plus cost of stamps
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The two are original ones.

The first seems to be a 1/36 one.

The second has undoubtly an orignial base... but what about the slashers with that gold (?... I can't really see the exact color) body ?

The first issue (#261) based on the DB4 Corgi cast doesn't have slashers that came with the first real DB5 in silver trim (#270)
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If that can help here are the #261 (above) & #270 bases.

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Hello Cody,

as said before, both are "original", the above is a Corgi 271 (1978-1990) in 1:36 scale, below the more desirable Corgi 270 (1968-76) in 1:43. While this casting was re-released in 1995 and 1997, the one shown is one of the original production run, maybe even one of the first with silver bumpers.

However, please note that the 270's front bumper is broken off on both sides, one of the known weak points of this model (the difference is easy to see in Fox's photo) - the other being the easily broken ejector seat. While repro bumper/grilles are available, it is amost impossible to remove the grille without opening the car.
Depending on the price of course, I would rather suggest to buy an example in better condition; unboxed ones aren't that rare or expensive.


Where I strongly disagree is that only a 270 DB5 is "worth buying as a collector". :o That's like saying "Matchbox Superfast aren't worth collecting, only RW" (although some would agree). Of course a MIB 270 will be more expensive to buy than the newer model but 271's are now more than 30 years old and mint examples are becoming more difficult to find. There are also very rare box variations from the transition period from Mettoy to Corgi Toys Ltd.


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Hi Cody, Buy both of them, they are both original Corgi issues. None of the James Bond Aston Martins will be faked for monetary gain, you can find models fitted with the wrong wheels, but those Two in your pictures are fine and as has been pointed out, the top model is from the 36th scale range, nothing wrong with that and yes it should be no more than £5-£10 to buy, but the lower model is the better one to buy as it is in 43rd scale and much more collectible.

If you do buy both, you can strike a better deal, good luck.

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Ok !

So the first one is a 1/36 #271 and according to the picture I made for you (didn't remember how the bases look like, thanks having made me touch again these models since a long time) the second one is the 1/45 second issue #270.
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