Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce
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Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce
Upto 1960, the 'Models of Yesteryear' range did not go past 14 different models in the range, but during this Year, Lesney became a Public Limited Company and to help cement the occasion, they introduced a brand new model to add to the range but gave it the number 15, thereby taking the range past the 'Set in Stone' 14 models range.
This new model was made with the full co-operation of the Rolls-Royce Company and the model was based on probably the most famous Rolls-Royce car, a 40-50 H.P. open tourer affectionatly known as "The Silver Ghost", bourn out by the special name-plate fixed to the fire wall just below the windscreen.
Children saw their first incarnation of this new model in a pocket catalogue as a line drawing (shown below), looking very grand indeed!
When the actual model was introduced, it was a revelation in metal casting finness, it really was a superb representation of the real car. Apart from the aforementioned name plate, every other detail seemed to have been put on this model and even today, it is still the best replica around considering it's market target and original price point.
The earliest photo of the actual model I have found comes from an issue of a model railway magazine from 1960 (shown below).
Despite the advert above, the first versions released onto the retail markets have Grey tyres.
The catalogue line drawing for this model suggests it is in 'O' scale, this clearly is not the case because the model measures close to 1/55 scale, if it were designed to complement an 'O' scale model railway system, it would be in 1/43 scale (7mm to the foot).
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This new model was made with the full co-operation of the Rolls-Royce Company and the model was based on probably the most famous Rolls-Royce car, a 40-50 H.P. open tourer affectionatly known as "The Silver Ghost", bourn out by the special name-plate fixed to the fire wall just below the windscreen.
Children saw their first incarnation of this new model in a pocket catalogue as a line drawing (shown below), looking very grand indeed!
When the actual model was introduced, it was a revelation in metal casting finness, it really was a superb representation of the real car. Apart from the aforementioned name plate, every other detail seemed to have been put on this model and even today, it is still the best replica around considering it's market target and original price point.
The earliest photo of the actual model I have found comes from an issue of a model railway magazine from 1960 (shown below).
Despite the advert above, the first versions released onto the retail markets have Grey tyres.
The catalogue line drawing for this model suggests it is in 'O' scale, this clearly is not the case because the model measures close to 1/55 scale, if it were designed to complement an 'O' scale model railway system, it would be in 1/43 scale (7mm to the foot).
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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce
In late 1961, the 'Grey' tyres were replaced by Black ones, still of the 'Knobbly' design. The term 'Knobbly' is simply because of the fairly heavy tread design, that would change during 1962 into a 'Smooth' tread design.
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Here is an example with the 'Smooth' tyres and of course in Black, there are no recorded examples of any other coloured tyres once the 'Smooth' tread design had been introduced across the 'Yesteryear' range.
This example is shown with it's original box from 1968-1969, so this model is a late version as the model was deleted from the range during 1969, to make way for new tooling, the Y15-2 a 1930 Packard, but a new Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost was introduced to the range as catalogue number Y10-3 in 1969, so this was a busy Year for Lesney what with all the 'Superfast' activity about to kick-off!
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This example is shown with it's original box from 1968-1969, so this model is a late version as the model was deleted from the range during 1969, to make way for new tooling, the Y15-2 a 1930 Packard, but a new Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost was introduced to the range as catalogue number Y10-3 in 1969, so this was a busy Year for Lesney what with all the 'Superfast' activity about to kick-off!
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The above Three models are the basics but of course being Lesney products, there is every chance this model was modified a few times...Understatement of the decade... There is a well known saying that goes with this model..."Lesney made more examples of this Rolls-Royce in one afternoon, than Rolls-Royce did in all the years they were in existance"...and when you have collected this model for many years as I have, you will understand that saying, because there really is an incredible number of modifications to be found on this model.
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Purists have always questioned the choice of colour for Y-15, Metallic light Green (which actually changes from various Greens to Steel Grey-Green and one odd version with an overall Blue tint). Why was it not painted in Silver or Silver-Grey?
The reference books (MICA), say the model was trialed with a Silver finish but none of them looked right and a decent Metallic Silver paint finish was not available until 1968 and then used on the Y-7 Rolls-Royce. So Y-15 was given a compromise colour, a light Metallic Green (I would have preferred a light Metallic Blue-Grey), Similar to the 'Pre-Production' Y-10 Rolls-Royce.
This model has been faimed for being the first in the range to have plastic seat mouldings and that Metallic paint finish, I have not checked this because I do not collect the other models in the range, so I can not confirm this.
The model proved very popular and was chosen for various promotional items within Lesney themselves and for presentational models to companies outside of Lesney. It was also included in the first Six models to be 'Vacumn Plated' and mounted on Ashtrays and trinket boxes for a 'Giftware' range launched during 1961.
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The reference books (MICA), say the model was trialed with a Silver finish but none of them looked right and a decent Metallic Silver paint finish was not available until 1968 and then used on the Y-7 Rolls-Royce. So Y-15 was given a compromise colour, a light Metallic Green (I would have preferred a light Metallic Blue-Grey), Similar to the 'Pre-Production' Y-10 Rolls-Royce.
This model has been faimed for being the first in the range to have plastic seat mouldings and that Metallic paint finish, I have not checked this because I do not collect the other models in the range, so I can not confirm this.
The model proved very popular and was chosen for various promotional items within Lesney themselves and for presentational models to companies outside of Lesney. It was also included in the first Six models to be 'Vacumn Plated' and mounted on Ashtrays and trinket boxes for a 'Giftware' range launched during 1961.
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[(slightly) off topic]GHOSTHUNTER wrote:Purists have always questioned the choice of colour for Y-15, Metallic light Green (which actually changes from various Greens to Steel Grey-Green and one odd version with an overall Blue tint). Why was it not painted in Silver or Silver-Grey?
The reference books (MICA), say the model was trialed with a Silver finish but none of them looked right and a decent Metallic Silver paint finish was not available until 1968 and then used on the Y-7 Rolls-Royce. So Y-15 was given a compromise colour, a light Metallic Green (I would have preferred a light Metallic Blue-Grey), Similar to the 'Pre-Production' Y-10 Rolls-Royce.
This model has been faimed for being the first in the range to have plastic seat mouldings and that Metallic paint finish, I have not checked this because I do not collect the other models in the range, so I can not confirm this.
The model proved very popular and was chosen for various promotional items within Lesney themselves and for presentational models to companies outside of Lesney. It was also included in the first Six models to be 'Vacumn Plated' and mounted on Ashtrays and trinket boxes for a 'Giftware' range launched during 1961.
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It's the same kind of reason that made the first Corgi-Toys James Bond Aston Martin gold finished. They had tried to make it Silver as it appeared in "Goldfingers". The result was horrible and the chief engineer said it was looking as bear metal. So they made it gold.
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Corgi-toys ergo sum
Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce
Practically every component on this model underwent at least one change of some sort during it's production life. The possible combinations are many more than are contained in the Yesteryear reference books. Go for it Kevin, then I'll see if I can add any.
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...now then Bob, are you hinting to me you want me to mention all the modifications and casting changes and possibly show pictures to the same effect...Hmm, let me think about that one, for a moment!!YYS4BOB wrote:Practically every component on this model underwent at least one change of some sort during it's production life. The possible combinations are many more than are contained in the Yesteryear reference books. Go for it Kevin, then I'll see if I can add any.
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I'm assuming your eyesight is better than mine by some measure, and therefore you will have spotted all the things that I missed
As I only have around 40 of these (including plated versions) and you probably have at least double that, you have a larger reference base than me, so are better equipped



As I only have around 40 of these (including plated versions) and you probably have at least double that, you have a larger reference base than me, so are better equipped


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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce
Well, here are 9 examples of Y-15 Silver Ghost, all with the Grey 'knobbly' tyres...
All different, all with their own specification.
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All different, all with their own specification.
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