12c Safari Land Rover in blue

[SMS88]

i have never seen stretch marks like these around the rivit of a genuine factory fitted SF12 baseplate

[godsey1]

The area around that rivet and the gold looking paint that they show on the front bumper has me staying out of this one. The bumper looks like the blue paint has been rubbed off, and looks like gold under it. I read the page on this model, and it says that the primer was white. That's the way I see it.

Tony

[SMS88]

Some folks reckon all blue SF12 are fakes, that none were factory made but canny folks way back in 1970 realsied that by warming up these baseplates they popped off the rivits easy and then could be squeezed back on again with only minor stretch marks - how many here are inclined to believe the blue Sf12 ever left Hackney as such or are all fakes like this one? Not sure white primer used on these, I think pale blue like the ¤42 Studes

[kwakers]

These Blue Land Rovers were actually delivered to stores here in the U.S. and possibly in Canada. They were a noted variation way back in 1973. The folks that reckon these were all fakes are wrong, they were well documented. Like many odd transitional colors, they were a very rare model that came mixed in with early Superfast deliveries in 1970 that had solid wheels only on them. kwakers

[SMS88]

These Blue Land Rovers were actually delivered to stores here in the U.S. and possibly in Canada. They were a noted variation way back in 1973. The folks that reckon these were all fakes are wrong, they were well documented. Like many odd transitional colors, they were a very rare model that came mixed in with early Superfast deliveries in 1970 that had solid wheels only on them. kwakers

Did kwakers or his family buy any blue SF12 when they were in stores? I have seen an online photo of one sealed in a USA blistered box. If kwakers didnt get one or more back in 1970 then the 1973 1st report kwakers recalls is suspiciously 3 years late

[Idris]

[I have seen an online photo of one sealed in a USA blistered box.

Blisters can be opened and convincingly reasealed. What is required is a mention in a collectors' magazine (e.g. AIM, NAMC) at the time.

[kwakers]

The earliest documentation I have right now is the NAMC Superfast Guide Mick. It is the first Documentation of the Superfast line that I am aware of, and as pinpoint accurate as the 1971 regular wheel guide that Bob published. Because mine was included with the second printing of the NAMC Lesney Guides, the printing was done on my copy in 1973. I have correspondence between Bob and I and a lot of other Collectors about the earliest transitionals we all found in stores all over the U.S., but I have little interest in my Superfasts that have been packed away since 1989. Do we have one? Did we find one in our stores? Both questions that I can't answer this A.M. in a hurry. I have seen originals, but I cannot tell you today Mick that we found any in our local stores. I hated Superfasts,, but still collected all the hundreds of models we found as variations until 1978. kwakers

[kwakers]

Please Check Nigel's Guide, he and Christian recorded history as it happened Mick, much like Bob and Harold, Toy and Train Quarterly and Bob's Hobby in Miami did over on our side in the U.S.A.......kwakers

[SMS88]

Please Check Nigel's Guide, he and Christian recorded history as it happened Mick, much like Bob and Harold, Toy and Train Quarterly and Bob's Hobby in Miami did over on our side in the U.S.A.......kwakers

I dont have access to Nigel´s guide but we do know that the short run of blue SF12 is one of those that seems to have been shipped entirely to USA. IF kwakers doesnt have at least one in his collection when his family collected all SF variations upto 1978 then Mark Curtis´s post of facebook saying this has always been a fake variation looks more credible - swapping baseplates is harder than swapping over dark brown luggage from a green RW 12 but not that much harder!

[Tinman]

then Mark Curtis´s post of facebook saying this has always been a fake variation looks more credible -

I wouldn't trust anything he posts as he was a little boy back in those days and he only parrots what others post (and as a result, is often wrong).