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27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:12 pm
by mbox75
and here lightorange Lamborghini without Tampo.Cheers Mathias.

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Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:59 am
by vetrad
Rivets...

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:46 pm
by familybucket43
vetrad wrote:Rivets...
Well spotted..................... :D

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:06 am
by matchbox360
familybucket43 wrote:
vetrad wrote:Rivets...
Well spotted..................... :D
These rivets don't look out of the ordinary to me. Are you guys seeing something that I'm not?

Cheers, Ken

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:48 pm
by nearlymint
matchbox360 wrote:
familybucket43 wrote:
vetrad wrote:Rivets...
Well spotted..................... :D
These rivets don't look out of the ordinary to me. Are you guys seeing something that I'm not?

Cheers, Ken
Hi Ken,
Looking at the photo the front rivet does not even look above the level of the base to me, I must admit I would be a bit worried about this one unless there are
some better pictures.
Jason

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:28 am
by vetrad
When the magical elves close rivets at the factory they resemble a blooming morning glory flower that spreads to cover the edges of the hole around the baseplate. The paint coloring the rivet is often a delicate mist that gets crushed and leaves a fine, flaky pollen around the flower edges.

These rivets have been violated by a mortal man. The delicate touch of a factory elf is not evident in these rivets.

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:57 am
by Idris
vetrad wrote:When the magical elves close rivets at the factory they resemble a blooming morning glory flower that spreads to cover the edges of the hole around the baseplate. The paint coloring the rivet is often a delicate mist that gets crushed and leaves a fine, flaky pollen around the flower edges.

These rivets have been violated by a mortal man. The delicate touch of a factory elf is not evident in these rivets.
What on Earth are you on (and can I have some too)?

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:55 pm
by vetrad
Getting ready to see the new Hobbit movie with the kids. Trying to get in the right mindset ;)

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:42 pm
by matchbox360
vetrad wrote:When the magical elves close rivets at the factory they resemble a blooming morning glory flower that spreads to cover the edges of the hole around the baseplate. The paint coloring the rivet is often a delicate mist that gets crushed and leaves a fine, flaky pollen around the flower edges.
These rivets have been violated by a mortal man. The delicate touch of a factory elf is not evident in these rivets.
LOL, David, that’s a hilarious account of the Lesney Elves and their magical riveting touch! They must be helping Santa now, working overtime in the toy section Image

Having read your and Jason’s explanations, I inspected my own No. 27 Lambo (yellow) and compared the rivets to this on-screen one. Viewed from the same angle, the rivets on mine seem to extrude a bit more from the baseplate and are very smooth and rounded. The central ‘depression’ in the rivets is quite deep and precisely circular (with faint concentric ‘rings’). I’ve never had cause to scrutinise the rivets on my models before, but now that I have, I see what you mean.

I suppose the rivets are like a ‘seal’ in that, while easy to remove or undo, are impossible to restore to their original state. Drilling out the rivets would thus destroy them and make it extremely difficult to reconstitute them in a convincing way. However, there may be other ways of removing and restoring rivets without leaving any ‘scars’, and this would pose a danger to collectors, esp. those seeking the more elusive (and highly priced) variations.

As you gentlemen have much more knowledge on this subject than I do, I will defer to your judgement. However, I caution against any premature verdict based solely on this one picture. Bear in mind that photos tend to lose the 3-dimensionality which we see in real life, and light intensity/angles are also a factor. If your conclusions are correct, then the implication is that the model’s a re-paint, which I’m sure will be very unwelcome news to the owner. I hope you’re wrong in this case, but must say that you present a convincing argument.

Very informative and insightful posts all around.

Cheers, Ken

Re: 27 B Lamborghini Countach

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:04 am
by motorman
The hole in the base plate should never be wider in diameter then a spun rivet, in this case the image posted suggests that this is the case, thereby inviting justified concerns from fellow members.