chisel cut' rivets

[brian]

i was wondering how common chisel cut' rivets are ? .i have two cars with them ,all the other vehicles ive got contain standard rivets.i have never noticed any when looking at toy fairs either.do they make the vehicle less valubale or higher ?.if any one has a vehicle with them any chance you could put a picture on here .

thanks brian

[SMS88]

Depends which specific model they are on,a few are known for them..........others could be fakes unless the stem is clearly unspun

[Idris]

Chisel-cut rivets are far from common and are an indication of hand assembly either i) in the factory for a special reason or ii) by a third party following disassembly after purchase. Normal production rivets (usually referred to as 'spun') have a smooth, flared shape, although certain examples of three models (10c Sugar Container, M5a Combine Harvester, and M10a Dinkum Dumper) can be found with a non-standard punched rivet.
Blelow are two photographs of later chissel-cut rivets in my collection. Both models are 14d Iso Grifos which I purchased directly from an ex-Lesney R&D employee.

[brian]

Depends which specific model they are on,a few are known for them..........others could be fakes unless the stem is clearly unspun

i have put two up under( Authenticate your toys ) they are 65a 3.4 jaguar and 41a d type jaguar.i think its interesting that some would go to all that trouble to mess around with cars.

[brian]

Chisel-cut rivets are far from common and are an indication of hand assembly either i) in the factory for a special reason or ii) by a third party following disassembly after purchase. Normal production rivets (usually referred to as 'spun') have a smooth, flared shape, although certain examples of three models (10c Sugar Container, M5a Combine Harvester, and M10a Dinkum Dumper) can be found with a non-standard punched rivet.
Blelow are two photographs of later chissel-cut rivets in my collection. Both models are 14d Iso Grifos which I purchased directly from an ex-Lesney R&D employee.

hi idris

thanks for explaining about the rivets and showing the models you have with them.

[mrmoko]

Chisel-cut rivets are far from common and are an indication of hand assembly either i) in the factory for a special reason or ii) by a third party following disassembly after purchase. Normal production rivets (usually referred to as 'spun') have a smooth, flared shape, although certain examples of three models (10c Sugar Container, M5a Combine Harvester, and M10a Dinkum Dumper) can be found with a non-standard punched rivet.
Blelow are two photographs of later chissel-cut rivets in my collection. Both models are 14d Iso Grifos which I purchased directly from an ex-Lesney R&D employee.

Hugh , Have you been holding out on us ? That smooth base is just great stuff. Reminds me of the base on the red #5 superfast Europa with disc wheels . Top model Hugh , I would love to see those models in a post of there own . What are the wheels on the other models ? Thanks for showing us . Gaz

[Idris]

Have you been holding out on us ? That smooth base is just great stuff. Reminds me of the base on the red #5 superfast Europa with disc wheels . Top model Hugh , I would love to see those models in a post of there own . What are the wheels on the other models ? Thanks for showing us . Gaz

I posted these photographs on the old forum, possibly following the downgrade. I'll repost with more details when George gets as far as no. 14 in his RW casting show.

[Idris]

i have put two up under( Authenticate your toys ) they are 65a 3.4 jaguar and 41a d type jaguar.i think its interesting that some would go to all that trouble to mess around with cars.

Since you found two from the same source and one of them (the 41a) cannot be faulted, I think there is every chance that they both came out of the factory that way. I would welcome the chance of a first hand inspection sometime. Do you ever get to any of the fairs?

[brian]

i have put two up under( Authenticate your toys ) they are 65a 3.4 jaguar and 41a d type jaguar.i think its interesting that some would go to all that trouble to mess around with cars.

Since you found two from the same source and one of them (the 41a) cannot be faulted, I think there is every chance that they both came out of the factory that way. I would welcome the chance of a first hand inspection sometime. Do you ever get to any of the fairs?

would be great to meet up at one of the fairs .go most weekends if there no more than 1hr and half hours away.i live not far from heathrow so motorways are handy.dose the british diecast forum ever meet up ?.

[Idris]

would be great to meet up at one of the fairs .go most weekends if there no more than 1hr and half hours away.i live not far from heathrow so motorways are handy.dose the british diecast forum ever meet up ?.

You're a bit too far South for me, but not too far from our glorious (56-year old!) leader. If you and he could arrange to meet up at a SE England toyfair, perhaps he could cast a professional eye over the models concerned and give us an expert opinion.
As regards the VBD meeting up, we have tried to arrange meetings at toyfairs. I believe there was a reasonably succesful one at Slough recently and, in the past, meetings have been held at the NEC (but have now petered out).