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fixer wrote:Why is voting so slow. ....are people waiting to see which is more popular so as not to seem out of line. .
And all you non-posting members at least get involved with this piece of fun it's only a number you need to post ...no comments if your worried about translation. ...come on don't be shy

I havent made my mind up yet Reg tbh.

motorman wrote:

fixer wrote:Why is voting so slow. ....are people waiting to see which is more popular so as not to seem out of line. .
And all you non-posting members at least get involved with this piece of fun it's only a number you need to post ...no comments if your worried about translation. ...come on don't be shy

I havent made my mind up yet Reg tbh.

Easy vote for me

Lesney pre-SF (i.e. pre-1970 incl. pre-Matchbox)
- 2c Muir Hill Dumper with Muir Hill decal (part of a cache of 20) (Mokosex) 1
- 9c Merryweather Marquis fire engine with GPW and crimped axles (Brad Pittiful)
- 10c Foden Sugar Container Truck with double wheel size error (Fixer)
- 15a in yellow (tractorboy) 1
- 22b Vauxhall Cresta in grey and pink (brainstrust)
- 24c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with mis-struck base rivet (Ecclesley)
- 27b Bedford Low Loader with dark green cab (mbox2000)
- 32b E-type Jaguar colour trial in silver-grey (with provenance) (Idris)
- 33a Ford Zodiac with matching D-box (Ergomatic) 1
- 38b Vauxhall Victor Estate Car with Green Interior and 10 x 36 GPW (Kerbside) 1
- 41c Jaguar D-type with red wheel hubs (Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- 44b Rolls Royce Phantom V with small BPW (Ghosthunter)
- 46a Morris Minor in blue with GPW (Moyboy)
- 50a Commer Pick-up in dark tan with SPW and B3 box (Taniwha) 2
- 56b Fiat 1500 (Malibu)
- 73b Mercury Commuter with '1968 Mercury' text on baseplate (Motorman)
- 75b in red (ydra247) 4
- M9a Cooper-Jarrett, blue doors, but paired with the first rivet fixing at front of base plate (yellowfoden)
- Y5-3 Peugeot preproduction (YYS4BOB)

Lesney post-RW (i.e. post-1969)
- SF4 Pontiac Firebird pre-production in white (ogedei2) 1
- SF8 Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2
- SF22 Freeman Intercity Commuter, first issue without labels in correct box (Idris)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with narrow wheels (Ecclesley)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with 'trim-Strip' and the low rear-arch (Ghosthunter) 1
- SF32 Leyland Petrol Tanker, grey base and with the corner cut 'BP' labels from the SF13 Dodge Wrecker (Motorman) 2
- SF33 Lamborghini in bronze with the red interior. (hydra247) 1
- SF35 Merryweather Fire engine with wide wheels and black base (Taniwha)
- SF36 Draguar pre-production in metallic lime ((Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- SF46 Mercedes Benz 300SE in gold with opening doors and boot (but iffy rivets) (Fixer)
- SF59 Ford Galaxie Fire Chief with "Lyons Tea" label on boot lid (Ergomatic) 1

Non-Lesney pre-1970 (i.e. no low-friction wheels)
- Condon bus in red (Idris) 1
- Dinky 28 series, type 1, Kodak van (Starni999) 7
- Lone Star Impy Merceders in red (ogedei2) 1
- Lone Star Mk. 10 Jaguar in metallic blue (Fixer) 2
- Lone Star dropside artic with the first-style tractor unit (Ewan)
- Mercury Bentley S2 with the very rare all chrome base plate and radiator (Ecclesley) 1

Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels)
- Lone Star Vauxhall Firenza (export version) (Fixer) 5
- Lone-Star No. 22 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III DHC in deep metallic Blue (Ghosthunter) 3
- Polistel Fiat 128 in red (Taniwha) 1
- Siku Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2

Happy Holidays to all!
Kay

Idris wrote:Voting list corrected for Tractorboy's and Ecclesley's votes:

Thank you Idris for that - I see now how I should have copied the LATEST list and added onto that.

My votes added below:

Lesney pre-SF (i.e. pre-1970 incl. pre-Matchbox)
- 2c Muir Hill Dumper with Muir Hill decal (part of a cache of 20) (Mokosex) 1
- 9c Merryweather Marquis fire engine with GPW and crimped axles (Brad Pittiful)
- 10c Foden Sugar Container Truck with double wheel size error (Fixer)
- 15a in yellow (tractorboy) 1
- 22b Vauxhall Cresta in grey and pink (brainstrust)
- 24c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with mis-struck base rivet (Ecclesley)
- 27b Bedford Low Loader with dark green cab (mbox2000)
- 32b E-type Jaguar colour trial in silver-grey (with provenance) (Idris)
- 33a Ford Zodiac with matching D-box (Ergomatic) 1
- 38b Vauxhall Victor Estate Car with Green Interior and 10 x 36 GPW (Kerbside) 1
- 41c Jaguar D-type with red wheel hubs (Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- 44b Rolls Royce Phantom V with small BPW (Ghosthunter)
- 46a Morris Minor in blue with GPW (Moyboy)
- 50a Commer Pick-up in dark tan with SPW and B3 box (Taniwha) 2
- 56b Fiat 1500 (Malibu)
- 73b Mercury Commuter with '1968 Mercury' text on baseplate (Motorman)
- 75b in red (ydra247) 5
- M9a Cooper-Jarrett, blue doors, but paired with the first rivet fixing at front of base plate (yellowfoden)
- Y5-3 Peugeot preproduction (YYS4BOB)

Lesney post-RW (i.e. post-1969)
- SF4 Pontiac Firebird pre-production in white (ogedei2) 1
- SF8 Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2
- SF22 Freeman Intercity Commuter, first issue without labels in correct box (Idris)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with narrow wheels (Ecclesley)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with 'trim-Strip' and the low rear-arch (Ghosthunter) 1
- SF32 Leyland Petrol Tanker, grey base and with the corner cut 'BP' labels from the SF13 Dodge Wrecker (Motorman) 2
- SF33 Lamborghini in bronze with the red interior. (hydra247) 1
- SF35 Merryweather Fire engine with wide wheels and black base (Taniwha)
- SF36 Draguar pre-production in metallic lime ((Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- SF46 Mercedes Benz 300SE in gold with opening doors and boot (but iffy rivets) (Fixer)
- SF59 Ford Galaxie Fire Chief with "Lyons Tea" label on boot lid (Ergomatic) 2

Non-Lesney pre-1970 (i.e. no low-friction wheels)
- Condon bus in red (Idris) 1
- Dinky 28 series, type 1, Kodak van (Starni999) 7
- Lone Star Impy Merceders in red (ogedei2) 1
- Lone Star Mk. 10 Jaguar in metallic blue (Fixer) 3
- Lone Star dropside artic with the first-style tractor unit (Ewan)
- Mercury Bentley S2 with the very rare all chrome base plate and radiator (Ecclesley) 1

Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels)
- Lone Star Vauxhall Firenza (export version) (Fixer) 6
- Lone-Star No. 22 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III DHC in deep metallic Blue (Ghosthunter) 3
- Polistel Fiat 128 in red (Taniwha) 1
- Siku Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2

There is a slight mistake in the title for the...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels). Please ignore the NO between i.e. and models, it should read like this...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels).

GHOSTHUNTER.

Lesney pre-SF (i.e. pre-1970 incl. pre-Matchbox)
- 2c Muir Hill Dumper with Muir Hill decal (part of a cache of 20) (Mokosex) 1
- 9c Merryweather Marquis fire engine with GPW and crimped axles (Brad Pittiful)
- 10c Foden Sugar Container Truck with double wheel size error (Fixer)
- 15a in yellow (tractorboy) 2
- 22b Vauxhall Cresta in grey and pink (brainstrust)
- 24c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with mis-struck base rivet (Ecclesley)
- 27b Bedford Low Loader with dark green cab (mbox2000)
- 32b E-type Jaguar colour trial in silver-grey (with provenance) (Idris)
- 33a Ford Zodiac with matching D-box (Ergomatic) 1
- 38b Vauxhall Victor Estate Car with Green Interior and 10 x 36 GPW (Kerbside) 1
- 41c Jaguar D-type with red wheel hubs (Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- 44b Rolls Royce Phantom V with small BPW (Ghosthunter)
- 46a Morris Minor in blue with GPW (Moyboy)
- 50a Commer Pick-up in dark tan with SPW and B3 box (Taniwha) 2
- 56b Fiat 1500 (Malibu)
- 73b Mercury Commuter with '1968 Mercury' text on baseplate (Motorman)
- 75b in red (Hydra247) 5
- M9a Cooper-Jarrett, blue doors, but paired with the first rivet fixing at front of base plate (yellowfoden)
- Y5-3 Peugeot preproduction (YYS4BOB)

Lesney post-RW (i.e. post-1969)
- SF4 Pontiac Firebird pre-production in white (ogedei2) 1
- SF8 Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2
- SF22 Freeman Intercity Commuter, first issue without labels in correct box (Idris)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with narrow wheels (Ecclesley)
- SF24 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with 'trim-Strip' and the low rear-arch (Ghosthunter) 1
- SF32 Leyland Petrol Tanker, grey base and with the corner cut 'BP' labels from the SF13 Dodge Wrecker (Motorman) 2
- SF33 Lamborghini in bronze with the red interior. (hydra247) 1
- SF35 Merryweather Fire engine with wide wheels and black base (Taniwha)
- SF36 Draguar pre-production in metallic lime ((Sir_Matchbox_96) 3
- SF46 Mercedes Benz 300SE in gold with opening doors and boot (but iffy rivets) (Fixer)
- SF59 Ford Galaxie Fire Chief with "Lyons Tea" label on boot lid (Ergomatic) 2

Non-Lesney pre-1970 (i.e. no low-friction wheels)
- Condon bus in red (Idris) 1
- Dinky 28 series, type 1, Kodak van (Starni999) 7
- Lone Star Impy Merceders in red (ogedei2) 1
- Lone Star Mk. 10 Jaguar in metallic blue (Fixer) 3
- Lone Star dropside artic with the first-style tractor unit (Ewan)
- Mercury Bentley S2 with the very rare all chrome base plate and radiator (Ecclesley) 1

Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels)
- Lone Star Vauxhall Firenza (export version) (Fixer) 6
- Lone-Star No. 22 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud III DHC in deep metallic Blue (Ghosthunter) 3
- Polistel Fiat 128 in red (Taniwha) 1
- Siku Ford Mustang in red (mbox2000) 2

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:There is a slight mistake in the title for the...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels). Please ignore the NO between i.e. and models, it should read like this...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels).

No. The original wording is correct.

Idris wrote:

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:There is a slight mistake in the title for the...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels). Please ignore the NO between i.e. and models, it should read like this...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels).

No. The original wording is correct.

How, the models in that category have low friction wheels, they were not made by Lesney so they ARE models converted to low friction or at least made from start to finish with low friction wheels, which to me negates the use of the word 'NO'.

Please explain further Hugh.

GHOSTHUNTER.

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:

Idris wrote:

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:There is a slight mistake in the title for the...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. no models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels). Please ignore the NO between i.e. and models, it should read like this...Non-Lesney post-1969 (i.e. models subsequently converted to low-friction wheels).

No. The original wording is correct.

How, the models in that category have low friction wheels, they were not made by Lesney so they ARE models converted to low friction or at least made from start to finish with low friction wheels, which to me negates the use of the word 'NO'.

Please explain further Hugh.

GHOSTHUNTER.

Since 1969/1970 was something of a watershed moment for the toy industry, the idea was to split, let's call them "pre-low-friction models" from "the rest". This category was supposed to capture "the rest", i.e. models which either continued to be manufactured with traditional wheels or which were issued right from the start with low-friction wheels. The explanatory text was supposed to make it clear that this was not the correct category to place a model which was subsequently converted to low-friction wheels (since, having traditional wheelsets, that would fall into the "pre-low-friction wheels" category).
Perhaps we need slightly different wording next year?