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Re: 7a with silver milk crates

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:39 pm
by Tinman
The photo of the model in question came to me from a collector who wanted to know my opinion of the model. They were considering buying the model. I have no relationship with the collector and do not know who is selling the model or if the petitioning collector ever bought the model. The model was described to me as having silver crates and indeed the crates do look to be silver in the photo. I have no further information.

If someone does know the owner of the model and they claim the crates are indeed white, I see no reason to dispute that. I would accept the owners in hand color opinions above any decisions garnered from viewing photos. We all know the difficulty and problems associated with making a concrete assessment based on photos alone.

Regardless, it does not change my opinions about silver trim being mixed (i.e. brush and spray) and the driver with white trim, if it was real, would still have been an anomaly for the variation. Since the crux of the of thread was about mixed applications methods, this does not sway my opinion and only rules out this one unusual anomaly piece as being a potential item of interest.

I only responded to the post because it is comment worthy if the models owner has indeed confirmed the crates as being white. I will take that claim at face value and trust that it's not driven by other motives.

It's my hope that this subject can be revisited at a later date and that all the hyperbole can be left aside and only the real issue discussed. IMHO, this thread has long since been ruined and I'm no longer interested in participating in the main discussion within this thread.

Re: 7a with silver milk crates

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:11 pm
by Tinman
Since I consider this thread to be ruined, I don't mind going off topic. The morphed topic is now accurate color representation in online media and even in hand by the person who is viewing the colors. Cameras, monitors and even the way the digital information is processed and transmitted all make it impossible to catalog color shades online.

Print publications are not reliable either as many of the same problems exist. The best we can hope for is to note that color shades vary. Regardless of the fact that such color variation spans extremes or is subtle, it is impossible to catalog. One can buy expensive color selectors from where ever and lay them out on a table. If you pick ten people to look at those color samples (excluding those whom are color blind), you will NOT get a consensus on the color shades.

Even being told the 7a in question has white crates does not stop my eyes from seeing silver. No offense to anyone who thinks they have an answer to this color cataloging problem ... but it simply isn't possible. Even arguing about the names is difficult. If dark tan and light brown means the same color can even be difficult because of subtle differences in language and translation around the globe. However, it is fairly easy enough to understand the essence of the differing descriptions used in various guides and to understand that different shades exist.