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Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:07 pm
by Idris
kerbside wrote:I am just glad that I am not a new collector of Regular Wheel models.
That's a conclusion I came to a while back.
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:49 pm
by Tinman
kerbside wrote:I think that the fraudsters who watch this site must be having a field day thinking of all the new variations they can make.
I am not really sure what this means. To me it reads like you don't want any new variations discovered, or that you don't want any variations discussed or both???
My purpose for the thread is promote discovery on the exact nature of the silver trim on the driver. To clear up the time line and a secondary outcome of the discussion is to seek information on the final casting variation which reverted back to white trim. IMHO none of these models were from Bronner's office display, they were not salesman's samples, they were not color trials nor were they one off experiments from Jack's department. IMHO, they are all production line variations.
The thread has nothing to do with fakers and fakes. There has been too much wild speculation and I'm only looking for facts derived from hands on inspection of members models. It would be most helpful if such observations were simply reported without an imaginative and speculative back story being created to go with the observation(s).
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:51 pm
by Idris
Tinman wrote:It would be most helpful if such observations were simply reported without an imaginative and speculative back story being created to go with the observation(s).
...and without being dismissive, disrespectful, rude, or abusive in any way towards any other Forum member (please).
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:56 am
by Tinman
A hyperbole free zone would be nice.
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:29 am
by Idris
Since this post has gone horribly off the rails, I would like to invite Joe to make a concise and factual summary of the story so far, together with a list of outstanding questions, and perhaps also an indication of the direction he would like further discussion to take.
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:39 pm
by fixer
Since this post has gone horribly off the rails,
And we the cat's need herding
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:25 pm
by numi
All Forum Members,
Strangers are friends we do not know.Its truly heartbreaking to read that friends can become strangers once again.The common saying is that we all should be heard and not trodden cos we think & act differently hence our different opinions in life.Failure is success and healthy debate is education.Confusion is a good thing as it eventually bring about affirms.Personal attacks,retaliation & insults are commonplace all around unfortunately but should never occur on a friendly open public forum and personal attacks is inadvertently an attack on our Maker as our souls belong to Him.Humility is key.In life its better to accept the dry bun than just vie for cream & no bun.
Isnt it scary to know that someday we will all walk alone after losing our loved ones incl our friends or they lose us so lets remain immortal families & friends while we walk this earth & beyond.He who bears the scars of a bitten tongue have no chance of healing and he who tries to cure it fails dismally.The heart is the biggest brain so lets not damage each other.Lets just forgive,pardon and move on or a huge hole will be dug and/or u have only yourself to "bury".
Please forgive each other for their "misgivings" as they seek to forgive us.Let there be happy feelings within us always and lets not bring harm to others.
Lets bring peace,unity & harmony back to our beloved forum and to our Guru Mr Nick Jones & others who selflessly & tirelessly created & run this forum to the benefit of all who visit and educate.
LOVE IN PEACE i say!!!!
numi
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:11 pm
by yellowfoden
duplicated post removed
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:13 pm
by yellowfoden
Tinman wrote:We had a discussion back on Lefora about this variation. The 7a with GPW and mask sprayed silver trim. Many thought the driver was part of the mask spray application and I argued that the drivers were hand painted and only the crates were mask sprayed. Here's some proof that the driver was not mask sprayed and that paint was hand applied to the driver. Obviously, not all the workers got the memo that the driver was to be detailed in silver too.
Hello Joe, Hugh, Mick and all,
The opening paragraph and photo reference mask spray silver crates and white hand trim to driver hat. The subsequent posts by other members reference the silver mask spray photo numerous times.
However there is a mistake that requires correcting.
Joe has posted a photo of a 7A with white crates that appears to have a coating making it look like silver to most members. To my knowledge no one else spotted this error or at the least made any comment.
Enquiries were made to the source of the photo and it has been confirmed that the crates are indeed white.
What this means is the thread is misleading in part and therefore we need a review before any more discussion continues based on “mask spray silver crates with white driver hat” in the opening post.
Could Joe please shed some light on this photo error.
I look forward to any comments.
Regards
Bert
Re: 7a with silver milk crates
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:17 pm
by Idris
yellowfoden wrote:Enquiries were made to the source of the photo and it has been confirmed that the crates are indeed white.
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