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Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:34 pm
by motorman
Could you use a lense out of a jewellers loupe?

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:05 am
by GHOSTHUNTER
motorman wrote:Could you use a lense out of a jewellers loupe?
I don't see why not, try it and see what you get, don,t worry about the pictures becoming darker with this additional lens method, pictures are easily brightened on your computer.

GHOSTHUNTER.

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:25 am
by Diecast
fixer wrote:I know this is off topic but Antonin said about no macro
I don't know if this is true but I was told that you can use the lens from a laser pointer held over the phone camera lens to create a macro lens
like I said don't know how true this is probably just having my leg pulled
Thanks Fixer & Ghosty for good advice, I will try it next time.
Antonin

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:42 am
by Diecast
lesney0905 wrote:Thank Antonin for his logical evaluation, continuous saying: the head of the axes is too large to pass through the wheels, does not enter in all three wheels! I do not see signs of tampering on the wheels (enlarge the hole) or on axes
No problem Lesney0905, I'm just trying to judge objectively the positive and negative arguments. In your case I see more positive arguments for your model.
Antonin

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:17 am
by lesney0905
Collector and not to the seller, I can do just pleasure!

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:44 pm
by numi
Diecast wrote:I agree with Dick, the only thing what is suspecious: "The holes in the center of these black wheels look to have been drilled out to slip over those smaller ends of these Tankers axles".
Antonin
I too agree with Kwakers,Antonin & Tinman thus rendering this model tampered and a fake and also not forgetting that the axle-end have been filed as they do not possess the "normal" round & sharp edge of the peens that face the hubs and with file marks/plier/grip marks being evident.
Undoubtedly,having the specimen in-hand is always the best!
We are talking specifically about this BPW specimen....right? If yes,then the tell-tale signs of tampering speak for themselves whether just one or many.
numi

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:06 pm
by lesney0905
Se ho capito bene ,tu affermi che la fine degli assi è stata "chiusa"con del metallo aggiunto,giusto?

If I understand correctly, you say that the end of the axes has been "closed" with the added metal, right?

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:39 pm
by Diecast
Sorry Numi, after a detailed examination of the photos and comparisons with my M6A Pickfords (please compare it with my photo) I think that the wheel holes are OK.
Antonin

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:50 am
by kwakers
The problem we have here is that we only have pictures to view, and not the model in our hands. If lesney0905 feels that the black plastic wheels are just as tight on this Tanker's axles as on his gray plastic wheeled model, they may not be drilled out, but worn looking from their riveted ends rubbing them as Diecast suspects. My original doubts are countered by lesney0905's statements of tighter than I expected BPW on those pictured funny looking axle shafts with 'stock when looking at just the end' pictures he has shown us of them.
I personally don't trust these photos enough to pass any judgements now, so I will agree with all points from Numi, Tinman, and Diecast! Each point COULD be true, OR each of the points might or even could be argued either way if the model were in hand.
Bad pictures in a #62 Cougar post here told a story that was much different than when the model was later in my hand. The model's strange #25 widow glaze is held in by a 'perfect' Lesney factory chisel split rivet, when bad pictures on the Forum showed it a mess. The base rivet shown under Super magnification in another photo was deemed an irregular 'Fake' by some Forum members also. When later in my hands and viewed from all different angles, that suspicious base rivet is also a well done factory spun unit. I learned more from that 'Special Cougar' than I could ever have imagined. Do I still have doubts on that Cougar.....Yes! But strangely a different set of doubts than I had when viewing those Forum pictures showing a mess that was really not there at all in hand......
Could we be seeing the same distortion of qualities on this #73 BPW rarity? We certainly could, maybe? We can't see what we can't see in lesney0905's pictures, so see what I mean? :geek: No?
We are all RIGHT in our opinions on these Lesney models' authenticity until we can prove ourselves wrong. Then, when we finally believe that we could have been mistaken, we still don't want to believe we could have been wrong all along.....LOL.......kwakers ;)

Re: 10 ton pressure refueller n° with black wheels

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:59 am
by Diecast
kwakers wrote: I personally don't trust these photos enough to pass any judgements now, so I will agree with all points from Numi, Tinman, and Diecast! Each point COULD be true, OR each of the points might or even could be argued either way if the model were in hand.
Thanks Dick, that's exactly what I wanted to say, we do not have enough evidence to make any judgements.
Antonin