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Re: Casting #3

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:03 pm
by numi
Idris wrote:
numi wrote:Yes,the ridge on my tipper is deliberate and perfect as one would expect from a planned design and intended purpose. Im speculating here that the sole purpose of this 1.5mm ridge was merely to stop the tail-gate from going further back and jamming making it hard for for the kids to reset.When they found out that this wasnt the case then they simply dropped the idea OR is it possible that there were several designs/dies made at the same time for the tipper beds just before full production.
I think a retooling is unlikely for two reasons. First, and most importantly, if it worked, why change it? Second, the retooling would involve significant work since material would need to be added to the die rather than removed. A whole new tool segment would therefore be required.
Sorry Idris as i seem to have overlooked your post again. :oops:
Should it not be the other way around IE material only from the one part of the die(presumably top) be removed rather than added in order to heighten the tail-end ridge of the tipper by 1.5mm?
numi

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:11 pm
by Idris
numi wrote:
Idris wrote:
numi wrote:Yes,the ridge on my tipper is deliberate and perfect as one would expect from a planned design and intended purpose. Im speculating here that the sole purpose of this 1.5mm ridge was merely to stop the tail-gate from going further back and jamming making it hard for for the kids to reset.When they found out that this wasnt the case then they simply dropped the idea OR is it possible that there were several designs/dies made at the same time for the tipper beds just before full production.
I think a retooling is unlikely for two reasons. First, and most importantly, if it worked, why change it? Second, the retooling would involve significant work since material would need to be added to the die rather than removed. A whole new tool segment would therefore be required.
Sorry Idris as i seem to have overlooked your post again. :oops:
Should it not be the other way around IE material only from the one part of the die(presumably top) be removed rather than added in order to heighten the tail-end ridge of the tipper by 1.5mm?
numi
Strange, I've just checked and I could have sworn that Nick had the ridged bed variation listed both at the beginning and at end of the variation table, my rationale for the above statement being that examples of the original, ridged casting were found in the stockroom and used for production towards the end of the model's life. Hence my comment about the need to remove the ridge from the tooling by adding material/recutting the tool segment.

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:19 pm
by nickjones
It did used to be listed at the beginning and end of the variation table.
The maroon tipper with the ridged bed is listed in the Stannard but it has never been seen.
The dark red tipper with the ridged bed that is not listed in the Stannard has been seen several times,
I decided to remove the earlier maroon version as its complete existence is thrown into doubt, No point in repeating mistakes made in the past I guess.
Of course I will be happy to add them back but we need proof that they exist.

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:34 am
by Idris
nickjones wrote:It did used to be listed at the beginning and end of the variation table.
Thank you, Nick. (It's comforting to know that i've not completely lost my marbles - yet!)

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:51 pm
by numi
Knobbly GPW without Exhaust Bracket.
numi

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:50 pm
by Brad Pittiful
nice one numi!

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:16 pm
by numi
Unrecorded Specimen similar to Nicks Code-2 except it has the clearly defined 1.2mm ridge on tipper bed.
numi

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:05 pm
by yellowfoden
numi wrote:Unrecorded Specimen similar to Nicks Code-2 except it has the clearly defined 1.2mm ridge on tipper bed.
numi
Very nice Numi with this one, as are the others added to the other casting show numbers today. Someone has been busy with the camera :D

Regards
Bert

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:26 pm
by numi
yellowfoden wrote:
numi wrote:Unrecorded Specimen similar to Nicks Code-2 except it has the clearly defined 1.2mm ridge on tipper bed.
numi
Very nice Numi with this one, as are the others added to the other casting show numbers today. Someone has been busy with the camera :D

Regards
Bert
Thanks Bert,this find was a stroke of luck.
numi

Re: Casting #3

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:54 pm
by numi
RW crossover with enlarged rear wheel arches.
numi