SMS88 wrote:Idris wrote:SMS88 wrote:it looks like this thread has proven that the final run of 7a were mask sprayed only thanks to yellowfoden , an unlisted variation in my collection!
However, we shouldn't forget Joe's model which kicked off this whole thread. That is a float with silver-trimmed crates, but a white-trimmed driver. The obvious conclusion is that it represents an older, part-trimmed float which was found in the stockroom when the model was scheduled for deletion and parts stocks were being run down. It is therefore not beyond the bounds of possibility that floats with hand-applied white crate trim were also found in the stockroom and used up in the final weeks of production. I think it would therefore be worthwhile if all members double-checked any GPW milk floats without all white drivers in their collections for evidence of hand-applied crate trim.
idris´ ´´obvious conclusion´´ = 100% unadulterated
speculation given that Joe´s model has a brush painted hat and silver crates which both indicate that it was finished long BEFORE final cream mask only production runs. In actual FACT the
obvious conclusion is that this was made in the factory as part of the very short silver run that escaped getting its driver silvered.The most probable conclusion is that the hat was detailed at home by somebody because this very obvious not in the least subtle variation has never been discussed or recorded in the 55 years since it was made even though it has been in collectors hands perhaps the whole of its life post sale.
As usual, you're missing the point:
obvious conclusion´´ = 100% unadulterated speculation: No, merely common sense based on how we know the factory operated when models were coming up for deletion.
"Joe´s model has a brush painted hat and silver crates": if you read the first post in this thread, you will see that joe
very clearly states that the silver trim is mark sprayed.
"this was made in the factory as part of the very short silver run that escaped getting its driver silvered": If you had read some of the other posts in the thread, you would have realised that models with mask-sprayed crates have hand-trimmed drivers, making for a two-step process. Joe model "did not escape getting its driver silvered". As we have seen time and time before, it was put into storage half finished, i.e. with only the crates trimmed and, when it was brought out again, the painting specification had changed.
"The most probable conclusion": on what grounds is it the most probable solution? The hat looks identical to the hats on many, many other example which can be found on line. There are no grounds whatsoever for this statement (as usual).
"because this very obvious not in the least subtle variation has never been discussed or recorded in the 55 years since it was made": Now there's a
really, really good argumenet. Remind me Mick, did that hold true for the 6a, 19c, 45a, 57a, 58a, or 68a trim variations which you also dismissed but which were shown to be factory issue? You have an incredibly poor track record when it comes to correctly assessing RW trim variatuions. Furthermore, whilst we're at it, lets not forget
the very pale blue 42a Studebaker of which two example are now known, and which you dismissed when it was first shown on Lefora. If you wish to regard Stannard as some kind of bible which contains the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, that's you business (and problem), but I respectfully suggest that you keep that worldview to yourself instead of using it to muddy the waters of this Forum.
(Personally, I think it's all the result of a
hot, sweaty child playing with it whilst eating lardy cake and drinking orange juice.)
To be perfecttly honest, I have better things to do with my life that have pointless arguments with you about this model, so no further reponses to your posts will be given.
Furtermore, If you wish to continue to believe that everything even slightly non-standard (like this 7a) was made especially for Fred Bronner, was breathed on by Jack Odell, or was part of some super-secret development project in R&D, that's fine by me.
