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Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:05 am
by matchbox_n_molars
For the record JP, I did better on your second and third quiz questions than I did your first.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:07 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Tinman wrote:Kev, you may have Testophobia.
Yeah, could be, I know I had trouble saying it... :D

Ghosty.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:18 pm
by numi
What MM is saying and i too concur is that axles for wheels, pins, axle-ends, axle-pins, axle-rods, pivots, pivot-pins, spindles etc should remain contextual and be used in the definitive and not as a presumptive or does one have to revert back to antonyms,synonyms and superlatives?
Try "a brace" and "a bracket". Is it the same and if yes,then shouldnt they be used appropriately in description,appropriately in purpose and in suit of context?
Here goes my 2c again... :lol:
numi

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:33 pm
by kerbside
To my way of terminology an axel is an axel to hold the wheels, your photo of an axel could also be a round headed
pin.

As described as a round headed pin with a crimped end to hold the bucket in place on models 2a and 2b.

More like a trick question ;) ;) not :o :o

George T.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:47 pm
by Tinman
George, the pointed end on the axle is where I ground off the machined end (to remove it from the model). I was in a hurry and did a sloppy job resulting in a pointed end.

I was hoping to promote a conversation about the ready access to axle crimp machines all through the 1960s and the effect that would have on assumptions made about out of time line models with crimp axles. Instead, the conversation has drifted into an argument of semantics.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:25 pm
by Idris
Tinman wrote:I was hoping to promote a conversation about the ready access to axle crimp machines all through the 1960s and the effect that would have on assumptions made about out of time line models with crimp axles. Instead, the conversation has drifted into an argument of semantics.
Returning to the original purpose of this thread, could the crimping machine used for for the 21d barrel have been the same as that originally used for axle ends? Surely there's an access issue here?

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:43 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
It would be great to see pictures of the axle crimping tool/machine.

Ghosthunter.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:52 pm
by Idris
GHOSTHUNTER wrote:It would be great to see pictures of the axle crimping tool/machine.
My guess is that they probably started off as something akin to a fly press and ended up as a small-scale, foot-pedal operated, hydraulic machine.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:20 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
The closest we have seen is this machine being used to force feed a short axle/pin into the rear section of the 'Models of Yesteryear' Y10 1928 Mercedes-Benz 36/220 model to hold the spare wheel in place...

Image

...this is merely a hand operated machine and once the model is in place a lever is pulled down, linked to a safety gaurde and the axle/pin is forced into position resulting in just a tight fit.

Ghosthunter.

Re: Quiz, last model to have a crimped axle end?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:04 am
by fixer
GHOSTHUNTER wrote:
Tinman wrote:Kev, you may have Testophobia.
Yeah, could be, I know I had trouble saying it... :D

Ghosty.
it's ok Kev an understanding Dr will give you the appropriate cream