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Jason, are there any visible mould numbers on the glazing units, to help put them in order?

GHOSTHUNTER.

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:Jason, are there any visible mould numbers on the glazing units, to help put them in order?

GHOSTHUNTER.

I will check Ghosty but I think they are in order as I listed them. J

nearlymint wrote:

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:Jason, are there any visible mould numbers on the glazing units, to help put them in order?

GHOSTHUNTER.

I will check Ghosty but I think they are in order as I listed them. J

Sorry Jason, I should have realised that, you usually are that thorough with your models...

Ghosty.

If we work on the basis that the windows insert will have become larger over time (i.e. each modification will have resulted from the removal of mould material), this will finally provide a basis for getting the various colours in the correct timeline (and will also enable me to see where my pale blue example fits in).

As regards the different degrees to which the rear roof section can be slid into the car, this could represent i) a modification to the glazing insert (in the form of a shortening of the pocket into which the roof section fits), ii) an increase in the overall length of the sliding roof panel, or iii) a modification to the inside of the roof (in the form of some kind of stop). Even though this modification is apparently not immediately obvious on inspection, it can be deduced from the position of the retracted roof and can therefore be used as a cataloguing/dating tool.

I hope Antonin’s got a big pile of 42b beaters and a sharp drill bit!

Idris wrote:Probably the best thing you can do is read the thread on the old site. Note that you will need to register first (and I've no idea if that's still possible - sorry!).
Note that this could be match for my own, currently unique, very pale blue 42b (which also came from The Netherlands).

Henk has recently sent me his pale blue 42b so that I caould compare it to my own.
In the hand, it is very slightly darker than mine, but this appears to be due to the absence of any kind of undercoat (which probably explains why the paint is flaking off so badly). My example has what appears to be a white undercoat which presumably slightly lightens the colour of the top coat. Certainly Henk's Studebaker is very clearly a much lighter colour than any of the standard Studebakers I own. (I'll try to post a photograph later, but you know how difficult it is to take even halway decent photographs of this model.) In addition, Henk's example (both the body and the baseplate) is a very rough casting , although it must be acknowledged that some of the damage is the result of extremely rough play.
My conclusion is that Henk's example provides additional evidence for a number of very pale blue 42b Studebakers having been shipped to and sold in The Netherlands. Having examined Henk's example, I would tentatively conclude that these pale blue examples were a mixture of earlier and later pre-productions.

Not the World;s best photograph (for which my apologies), but hopefully you can see that my pale blue example (centre right) and Henk's (centre left) are essentially the same colour and that the colour is significantly different from those of the other Studebakers.

I have just been through all those pages linked by "Idris", about the Studebaker and it is very interesting reading, I don't have any information to add to it, but I had considered saving the posts and re-posting here on the 'Live' forum, but at 19 pages, will actually be far too long in it's present format, it would need some editing, so for now I hope anyone interested in them can click on the link and read them themselves.

Just one question, was the colour issue settled, was it agreed there are Three or Four 'Parent' colours for the body then Three or Four for the roof slide?

GHOSTHUNTER.

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:Just one question, was the colour issue settled, was it agreed there are Three or Four 'Parent' colours for the body then Three or Four for the roof slide?

There was agreement that Nick's Stannard-based list was wrong and,as a result, his catalogue page underwent significant revision. IIRC, there was general agreement that the revised version was substantially correct but, given the double issues of i) shades, and ii) the near impossibility of taking true-to-life photographs of 42b Studebakers, it is impossible to be absolutely certain that the catalogue page correctly reflects all the know common variants. In addition, this Forum has seen examples of two models not currently covered: the pale blue version discussed in this thread and the as-good-as green examples found in the States (and brought to our attention by Kwakers).
I think the final cataloguing of this model will have to wait until the first VBD convention,when we can all get together in a room with a big table and pool our Studebakers in an effort to determine just what variations are really out there.

I fully agree with a 'Convention' instigated by us, the forum members via and on behalf of the 'Vintage British Diecast' forum, this would be a good idea and in the case of this particular model, the Studebaker, essential and I hope something can come of this.

I believe it will have to take place at the NEC, it is fairly central and as you have seen from your previous visits, it has plenty of spare room in reception/foyer with decent natural Daylight streaming through the windows.

It is essential that as many examples of the Studebaker can be brought along and decent Photographs taken and the best group picture used on the code page.

The finer details can be sorted out among the 'Convention Team' whoever that may turn out to be, but clearly Nick will be the lead man and he should have Two assistants, voted through by forum members in the lead up to the NEC Toy Fair itself, does that sound feasible.

GHOSTHUNTER.

GHOSTHUNTER wrote:I fully agree with a 'Convention' instigated by us, the forum members via and on behalf of the 'Vintage British Diecast' forum, this would be a good idea and in the case of this particular model, the Studebaker, essential and I hope something can come of this.

I believe it will have to take place at the NEC, it is fairly central and as you have seen from your previous visits, it has plenty of spare room in reception/foyer with decent natural Daylight streaming through the windows.

It is essential that as many examples of the Studebaker can be brought along and decent Photographs taken and the best group picture used on the code page.

The finer details can be sorted out among the 'Convention Team' whoever that may turn out to be, but clearly Nick will be the lead man and he should have Two assistants, voted through by forum members in the lead up to the NEC Toy Fair itself, does that sound feasible.

GHOSTHUNTER.

this sounds like a good plan I would suggest Hugh be one of the "assistants" as he does have a good eye for details
BTW is this VDB convention looking more possible as time goes on ??