Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce

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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce

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Base A

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Base A to B (interim)

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Base B

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Base C

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Base D

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Base E

These are the bases as produced by Lesney on painted models that I have, the letter designation is taken from the "Yesteryear White Books". There is another base with a large hole drilled in it, but this was for the London to Brighton car game, and is a third party alteration.

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Thanks for showing its much easier to see the difference on fotos than the drawings in the white bible.
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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce

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There is an additional base between Bob's 'A' and 'Interim' bases where the little link from the rear wing to chassis side rail is totally missing. I have Two examples so this appears to be a genuine variation. Tool ware can not account for this either because the model is not old enough yet to suffer from this.

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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce

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Modifications to this model while having the Grey 'Knobbly' tyres are...

The deletion of one of the body securing 'Pips' on the inside of the 'Fire Wall' (we would prefer to call this a dash panel these Days!).
The centre boss on the steering wheel will be High or low.
The wheel rims obtained their strengthening braces.
The centre of the spare wheel rim holder obtained a small 'Pip' which does change through production but out of poor performance of the pressing machine rather than tooling changes!
The axle-ends are matched on these versions meaning the large ends are on the same side of the car. Just before a body colour change, the large end flipped from the passenger's side to the driver's side.
The body colour changed to a 'Vivid' Green.
The very last 'Vivid' Green versions had their large axle-ends flipped back to the passenger's side.

These are the findings of models in my own collection, placed in an order deemed to be as close as possible to those issued from Lesney as I can get. I am not aware of any 'Old Stock' components being used on the model so far.

The next versions will have the Black 'Knobbly' tyres.

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Is this the area you're talking about Kev?

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These are all different, but the third one looks like a proper brace rather than just as a result of poor fettling.

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Have just found 2 more grey tyre models and one has no plate between the wing and the body on one side, and a very thin and slightly deformed one on the other side. Assume this is what you meant. Generally seems to be a lot of inconsistency in this are on these early models.
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Hi Bob. Yes, that is the area and I know what you are saying about there being differences about the look of the link, all down to a bad design causing poor metal flow in the tooling. One option they tried was to remove the link completely, but that seems to have had an effect on the base/wing casting and the link was soon put back. Later we see the cure for this problem area, they filled it in with metal completely!

It sounds like you do have one and the side with some evidence of a link will just be flashing from the edge of the rear spring detail.

My Two examples without the link are clearly designed this way, no evidence of where the link was, may have been or should be.

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Re: Y15-1 1907 Rolls-Royce

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I have now found an additional baseplate that goes between Bob's (White book codes), 'D' and 'E', which does not have the small disc near the front rivet.
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Sorry about the picture quality, my usual Camera is already packed away ready for the House move.

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Would that be an ejector mark? It doesn't correspond to any of the holes.
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YYS4BOB wrote:Would that be an ejector mark? It doesn't correspond to any of the holes.
Yes, on your picture of base 'E', it is between the front rivet and your Yellow sticker.

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