Y7-3 1912 Rolls-Royce
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GHOSTHUNTER
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Re: Y7-3 1912 Rolls-Royce
I know, that's what I was looking for on your picture of your baseplate...Fox wrote:Yes ! Mine has a red smooth roof and a cast step !
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Re: Y7-3 1912 Rolls-Royce
I couldn't see that on my picture. so I had to look at my model car.
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Re: Y7-3 1912 Rolls-Royce
If Bob does not mind me using his excellent pictures, I will re-post them here, with additional notes etc.
So this is the earliest known baseplate design, with the cast step between the engine sump and front axle. The main body colour will be Silver-Grey and the roof will be smooth Red. The Two 'Collared' holes on the base are suggesting the model could be mounted in packaging similar to what 'DINKY' used in the 1960's and 70's, but nothing has ever been seen that fits into the holes, so maybe due to costs, a box design for this model was not proceeded with and it was placed instead in the rather flimsy fully closed picture box, like the example shown by ''Fox'' earlier.
The second baseplate design is as above, but without the cast step and for this thread only it is known as...'Base Aa', because it goes between 'Base A' and 'Base B'. Models with this baseplate will be Silver-Grey with a smooth Grey roof (in shades). Now, a modification was done to the front spring design with additional metal added behind the front axle to create a bigger 'Fill-In', similar to what was done to the Bentley Y-5(B) rear spring area. What this has done is to create a further base design, so for this thread only it is known as...'Base Ab'.
A lot of models use this bases above and probably the most used types seeing the introduction of various seat colours and body colours.
The 'Giftware' versions of this Rolls-Royce had Two mounting 'Pillars' cast onto the baseplate and normal production models show Two flat discs in place of the 'Pillars' and this has created the 'Base B', shown below.
Essentially the difference between 'Base Aa' and 'Base B' is only the Two flat discs replacing the earlier 'Collared' holes.
The next base (shown below), has small holes let into the flat discs, not sure why this was done, as again this is a modification with no obvious purpose or benefit. This may just be a result of removing metal from the tooling to save on waste material.
This design shows a lot of surface abrasions under the metallic paint finish, suggesting the tooling became rusty or very dusty and no one thought to clean it!
The next design (shown below), was modified quite significantly with wider springs, the removal of '1912' from the model description text and an extra square opening by the side of the engine sump. These mods were because the baseplate was now being used to supply the base for the Y-6 Rolls-Royce 'Fire Engine', so the '1912' date was no longer useful and the square opening was for fixing the steering wheel in the 'Fire Engine'.
Note the wider front and rear spring profile, no '1912' date above ROLLS ROYCE and the little square opening by the engine sump. 'plated' versions of this base exist for the 'Giftware' range.
'Base D' had to have a small modification when it was pointed out the 'Fire Engine' had the wrong model number, it still showed Y-7, when in fact it should have shown Y-6, but because the baseplate was used for both models, they simply added...'Y-6 &', to make it read...'Y-6 & Y-7'. This is what makes 'Base E', shown below.
This base with the 'Y-6 & Y-7' description stayed in use until the model was deleted from production in the mid-80's.
I have had to do the above from memory, so appologies if I have left something out, I will update this when possible either when I have all the models out of storage again, or if I get access to my other hard drive!!
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- Y7-3 Base A.jpg (86.01 KiB) Viewed 890 times
The second baseplate design is as above, but without the cast step and for this thread only it is known as...'Base Aa', because it goes between 'Base A' and 'Base B'. Models with this baseplate will be Silver-Grey with a smooth Grey roof (in shades). Now, a modification was done to the front spring design with additional metal added behind the front axle to create a bigger 'Fill-In', similar to what was done to the Bentley Y-5(B) rear spring area. What this has done is to create a further base design, so for this thread only it is known as...'Base Ab'.
A lot of models use this bases above and probably the most used types seeing the introduction of various seat colours and body colours.
The 'Giftware' versions of this Rolls-Royce had Two mounting 'Pillars' cast onto the baseplate and normal production models show Two flat discs in place of the 'Pillars' and this has created the 'Base B', shown below.
- Y7-3 Base B.jpg (93.57 KiB) Viewed 890 times
The next base (shown below), has small holes let into the flat discs, not sure why this was done, as again this is a modification with no obvious purpose or benefit. This may just be a result of removing metal from the tooling to save on waste material.
- Y7-3 Base C.jpg (102.43 KiB) Viewed 890 times
The next design (shown below), was modified quite significantly with wider springs, the removal of '1912' from the model description text and an extra square opening by the side of the engine sump. These mods were because the baseplate was now being used to supply the base for the Y-6 Rolls-Royce 'Fire Engine', so the '1912' date was no longer useful and the square opening was for fixing the steering wheel in the 'Fire Engine'.
- Y7-3 Base D.jpg (92.55 KiB) Viewed 890 times
'Base D' had to have a small modification when it was pointed out the 'Fire Engine' had the wrong model number, it still showed Y-7, when in fact it should have shown Y-6, but because the baseplate was used for both models, they simply added...'Y-6 &', to make it read...'Y-6 & Y-7'. This is what makes 'Base E', shown below.
- Y7-3 Base E, 'Y-6 and Y-7' numbers..jpg (96.92 KiB) Viewed 890 times
I have had to do the above from memory, so appologies if I have left something out, I will update this when possible either when I have all the models out of storage again, or if I get access to my other hard drive!!
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Re: Y7-3 1912 Rolls-Royce
Very comprehensive as always Kevin. Glad my attempts at capturing enough detail for you were of use 
Bob