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Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:05 pm
by fixer
found this on ebay another Spanish copy this time a #59 galaxy fire chief by java , obvious difference is the blue window unit and clear roof light
interior looks to be the same and the base is made from plastic
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:14 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Hello Reg, thanks for putting the Galaxy copy here.
'PAYA' are not known for their diecast metal toy production as they mainly concentrated on tinplate based toys and vehicles. In recent times they have re-issued many of their product line back onto the retail markets in Spain.
These diecast models are certainly inspired by "Matchbox" if not direct copies and I have shown two more below and another version of your Galaxy but with a red roof beacon.
GHOSTHUNTER.
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:30 pm
by fixer
hi Ghosty are these made by Paya or Java (or are they the same) I thought it was Java as that is what the logo to the left appears to say also its how the seller described it on ebay
the casting is a very close copy the only changes I can see are no locating marks for the bonnet/hood decal and doors
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:27 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Its 'PAYA' and the little logo to the left on the baseplate is based on their original logo, it has a very large elongated letter 'P' running right through the rest of the design, shown here on this modern re-issue (top right corner), and rather annoyingly it does tend to read 'JAVA' along the top half which may be a play on Javea, a place in Spain.
Ghosty.
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:14 pm
by fixer
yet again Lord Hunter comes to the rescue
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:48 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Here is a nice copy, unfortunately I have no details for this one, I found this picture on a website showing model recovery tucks.
The fact it is all relatively in focus, suggests the model is quite big, around 1/20th scale I reckon and in line with other plastic toys of this period, probably made in Hong Kong during the late Sixties.
GHOSTHUNTER.
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:44 am
by ritchie
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:33 pm
by johnboy
This is a larger scale friction drive Commer Ice Cream Van by Telsada, on a buy-it-now: Pricey, but it looks quite nice.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TELSALDA-COMM ... 486b8e50f1
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:30 pm
by misterpop
I remember those ice cream vans on the markets with an FX3 taxi and always thought they may be worth buying for the future..Little did they know they where producing a collectors piece.
Re: "MATCHBOX" copies etc.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:30 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Thanks Ritchie for showing the 'METAL CAR' Rolls-Royce copy here.
'METAL CAR' models are illegal copies of SIKU, NOREV, BURAGO and MATCHBOX among others. There is usually a logo cast onto the metal baseplates or moulded onto the plastic baseplates, but the Rolls-Royce (and probably others), does not have this and Ritchie's picture shows this clearly, it only has a paper label and this allows the models to be marketed under other 'Brand' names.
The Rolls-Royce as an example was marketed in Poland under the 'BLEKTRO' name, the fact it has the same sticky label on the roof suggests it was made for 'BLEKTRO' by Metal Car themselves and just handed over to 'BLEKTRO' for them to market it!
'BLEKTRO' is even more obscure than 'METAL CAR' and it is only the Rolls-Royce I know-of from that company, but other models from the 'METAL CAR range must have been part of the range.
Shown below is a picture of the 'BLEKTRO' Rolls-Royce from Poland and two pictures of 'METAL CAR' baseplates, a plastic one and metal one, both showing the 'M' in a circle with a little crown symbol over the 'M'.
GHOSTHUNTER.