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Re: BMC

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:54 pm
by numi
Hi Kurt,do u mind adding a clear close up pic of this base rivet,encircled in red and using the Makro setting on your digi-cam.
numi

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:48 pm
by Rob
From what I can see from the photos this 56a looks to be a standard orange model, but the base photo is interesting because it shows the rivet painted and also not perfectly formed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matchbox-Supe ... xyBjBTVYSi

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:38 pm
by motorman
Rob wrote:From what I can see from the photos this 56a looks to be a standard orange model, but the base photo is interesting because it shows the rivet painted and also not perfectly formed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matchbox-Supe ... xyBjBTVYSi
Rob i recon it does look more yellow than orange when it is sat next to the Field car on the image on the opening page of this discussion. imho :D

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:28 pm
by Rob
Yes, I agree Alex, from the comparison photo it does look more yellow than orange, and having the model in hand will only be the way to find the true answer.

As an interesting point of discussion relating to this I have found over the years that yellow and orange are just about the most difficult to photograph in order to achieve a true and accurate representation. The best way I have tackled this is by using a daylight bulb in a lamp. This bulb is coloured blue but when switched on actually produces a very similar effect as natural daylight. Before I had this I had all sorts of frustrating problems trying to get the photo to do justice to the model :)

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:34 pm
by motorman
Rob wrote:Yes, I agree Alex, from the comparison photo it does look more yellow than orange, and having the model in hand will only be the way to find the true answer.

As an interesting point of discussion relating to this I have found over the years that yellow and orange are just about the most difficult to photograph in order to achieve a true and accurate representation. The best way I have tackled this is by using a daylight bulb in a lamp. This bulb is coloured blue but when switched on actually produces a very similar effect as natural daylight. Before I had this I had all sorts of frustrating problems trying to get the photo to do justice to the model :)
Interesting Rob, where can you buy these daylight bulbs?

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:39 pm
by Pierkemimi
The model is a mix of yellow and orange. The yellow has the upperhand.
It's not a repaint because if you keep the model in hand you can see that the paint reflect in light and you can see reflections on it.
Also when you open the doors the paint of the inside of a door is normal. Less paint on the inside than outside the doors.
Have seen lots of fake models and repaints but this model has the gloss of a normal model. Repaints dont have that.
Like I said you have the hold the model in hand otherwise you would think it's a fake. It comes from someone who has these models
in a box for more then 30 years and sold them to my brother. The person in question has no knowledge of matchbox.

Re: BMC

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:49 pm
by fixer
Pierkemimi wrote:The model is a mix of yellow and orange. The yellow has the upperhand.
It's not a repaint because if you keep the model in hand you can see that the paint reflect in light and you can see reflections on it.
Also when you open the doors the paint of the inside of a door is normal. Less paint on the inside than outside the doors.
Have seen lots of fake models and repaints but this model has the gloss of a normal model. Repaints dont have that.
Like I said you have the hold the model in hand otherwise you would think it's a fake. It comes from someone who has these models
in a box for more then 30 years and sold them to my brother. The person in question has no knowledge of matchbox.
another easy way to do a quick check for repaints is to scratch them with your finger nail as generally the paint is softer than original and will come off
although i'm sure Tinman or one of our other paint supremos will know otherwise ;)

Re: BMC

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:36 am
by Rob
motorman wrote:
Rob wrote:Yes, I agree Alex, from the comparison photo it does look more yellow than orange, and having the model in hand will only be the way to find the true answer.

As an interesting point of discussion relating to this I have found over the years that yellow and orange are just about the most difficult to photograph in order to achieve a true and accurate representation. The best way I have tackled this is by using a daylight bulb in a lamp. This bulb is coloured blue but when switched on actually produces a very similar effect as natural daylight. Before I had this I had all sorts of frustrating problems trying to get the photo to do justice to the model :)
Interesting Rob, where can you buy these daylight bulbs?
Here you go Alex, this is very similar to the one I have, I bought mine from Homebase some years ago and it is still working fine, mine is a screw type fixing as opposed to this bayonet one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crompton-Daylig ... ight+bulbs

Re: BMC

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:30 pm
by motorman
Rob wrote:
motorman wrote:
Rob wrote:Yes, I agree Alex, from the comparison photo it does look more yellow than orange, and having the model in hand will only be the way to find the true answer.

As an interesting point of discussion relating to this I have found over the years that yellow and orange are just about the most difficult to photograph in order to achieve a true and accurate representation. The best way I have tackled this is by using a daylight bulb in a lamp. This bulb is coloured blue but when switched on actually produces a very similar effect as natural daylight. Before I had this I had all sorts of frustrating problems trying to get the photo to do justice to the model :)
Interesting Rob, where can you buy these daylight bulbs?
Here you go Alex, this is very similar to the one I have, I bought mine from Homebase some years ago and it is still working fine, mine is a screw type fixing as opposed to this bayonet one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crompton-Daylig ... ight+bulbs
Thanks Rob I will definitely be purchasing one to provide more natural light when I need to photograph models indoors. Appreciated mate. :)