A useful resource for collectors of British diecast toys
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Not the most reliable reference guide!!lesney0905 wrote:I forgot: the model is also mentioned in the Charlie Mack's book
Correct JB every one was a HTF or never seen before variation and all of them were fakes if my memory is correctjohnboy wrote:I think I'm way off here, but this isn't the same model that surfaced a few years ago is it? A forum member posted a whole bunch of vhtf/rare models in a small display case. Most went on ebay (I remember a refueller with bpw and a 28b with gpw) I think they were all fakes.
You have obviously discounted the flat file marks on the axle ends and the tooling marks where pliers or a similar tool held the axle and left parallel marks on it:Diecast wrote:I agree with Dick, the only thing what is suspecious: "The holes in the center of these black wheels look to have been drilled out to slip over those smaller ends of these Tankers axles". The ends of the axles are absolutely in the norm. I can show you dozens of photos with a similar or same axle ends. Some are smaller, some are higher, some are straight, some are slanting, some are flat, some are rounded, some have sharper ends, some have rounded ends, ......and most of them have the "rays" from the center, but not all and that all sometimes on the same model (exactly as it is on the photos from lesney0905). The silver ends (with no rust) are typically in the areas where the wheels rotate relativelly to the axles and they polished the surface from the rust. It could be also the traces of the file, but the traces, in my opinion, are too "nice" to be from the file. The wheels have really larger diameter and they were (very probably) pressed over the riveted ends.
Antonin
Your remarks 1 and 2 are the same.Tinman wrote:You have obviously discounted the flat file marks on the axle ends and the tooling marks where pliers or a similar tool held the axle and left parallel marks on it:Diecast wrote:I agree with Dick, the only thing what is suspecious: "The holes in the center of these black wheels look to have been drilled out to slip over those smaller ends of these Tankers axles". The ends of the axles are absolutely in the norm. I can show you dozens of photos with a similar or same axle ends. Some are smaller, some are higher, some are straight, some are slanting, some are flat, some are rounded, some have sharper ends, some have rounded ends, ......and most of them have the "rays" from the center, but not all and that all sometimes on the same model (exactly as it is on the photos from lesney0905). The silver ends (with no rust) are typically in the areas where the wheels rotate relativelly to the axles and they polished the surface from the rust. It could be also the traces of the file, but the traces, in my opinion, are too "nice" to be from the file. The wheels have really larger diameter and they were (very probably) pressed over the riveted ends.
Antonin
Tooling marks on axle round over.
Tooling marks on axle.
Distress damage to plastic around hole in wheel.
Signs of drilling the wheel supports.
Oversize hole in wheel.
These are way too many "signs" on one model to be giving it a green light.
That was our friend Jasmine Green.motorman wrote:Correct JB every one was a HTF or never seen before variation and all of them were fakes if my memory is correctjohnboy wrote:I think I'm way off here, but this isn't the same model that surfaced a few years ago is it? A forum member posted a whole bunch of vhtf/rare models in a small display case. Most went on ebay (I remember a refueller with bpw and a 28b with gpw) I think they were all fakes.