69c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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Re: 69c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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Hello Ghosty, I couldn't remember if this has come up before. I've got a few of these models but one hasn't got a small slot at the base of the license plate.
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Re: 69c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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Hello Johnboy, on my current listing for this model, I have models at A1, A2, B1 and B2, all without the little slot at the rear of the front index plate. Models from A3 and B3 onwards, all have the slot and it was added to this model almost in-line with it appearing on the #24c Silver Shadow saloon.

Here is a link back to my picture with the 'A LINE' and 'B-LINE' models...viewtopic.php?f=8&t=358&start=100#p7132

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Thanks Ghosty, so much to learn and so little time to do it in :lol:
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Re: 69c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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johnboy wrote:Thanks Ghosty, so much to learn and so little time to do it in :lol:
I know Johnboy, what scares me about my Hobby, I don't take it seriously, god knows what I'm gonna find when I do... :lol:

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P.S. I have recently found a few more #69c models in good condition and beaters from long forgotten boxes in storage and somewhere I have a box of duplicates I used to take with me as part of my toy fair stock, can't wait to go through those... :P

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GHOSTHUNTER wrote:
johnboy wrote:Thanks Ghosty, so much to learn and so little time to do it in :lol:
I know Johnboy, what scares me about my Hobby, I don't take it seriously, god knows what I'm gonna find when I do... :lol:

Ghosty.

P.S. I have recently found a few more #69c models in good condition and beaters from long forgotten boxes in storage and somewhere I have a box of duplicates I used to take with me as part of my toy fair stock, can't wait to go through those... :P

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Have fun Ghosty, if it feels like things are getting a bit serious, just pick a model out of the box and push it around the floor and make engine noises. It works for me. Gotta go now, it's lights-out & lock-up time :lol:
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"Have fun Ghosty, if it feels like things are getting a bit serious, just pick a model out of the box and push it around the floor and make engine noises. It works for me. Gotta go now, it's lights-out & lock-up time"

Ah! I see where your coming from now...pretend these little cars are toys, that's a bloody good idea...I've got enough to make a garage and a car park and with some bits of card and sticky-back plastic, I can make some little petrol pumps and then I could ma............Sorry Johnboy, gotta go now, I've gotta go and get all me toys out...see you later...

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Re: 69c Rolls Royce Silver Shadow

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There has been a lot of talk within these threads about a 'Long-Seat' version of the #69c Rolls-Royce 'Drop-Top'. To those members who have one, you fully understand what this means, to those who don't but are searching for one, look at the pictures below.
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I am fortunate to be able to show the seat component from a 'Long-Seat' model, next to a seat component from the normal full production model. The difference in the amount of plastic between the Two is clear. The unit on the left is as far as we know the same as the seat component used in the known 'Pre-Production' models, it is not possible to break one of those to get to the seats, but clear pictures show the unit has the same sort of rear extensions as the unit in the picture above and they can be seen by looking up into the rear wheel-arches. The same sections of plastic are also viewable through the 'Hinge-Arm' openings inside the boot, these are the large 'Cut-Outs' on the boot's back-wall as you look into the open boot from the back of the car.
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Viewed from a different angle, we can now see the the dash-panel has Two hinge-points instead of the Three hinge-points on the normal production unit. It also has a '4' mould number, while the normal unit has the number '2' (they are between the Two circles on the underside of the rear seat section).
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The hinge-points are clearly visible in this picture.

Please note that no models were harmed during this demonstration!

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Thanks for the nice clear explanation and photos Ghosty. The central support was stregnthened (where it meets the back of the seats) so did that simply make the two long arms redundant? There also looks like a couple of other small differences:
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Thank you Kevin for the detailed description and images, that should make it much easier for members here to understand what to look out for when hunting down the long seat version. (by the way that long seat looks fimiliar to me for some reason ;) )
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motorman wrote:Thank you Kevin for the detailed description and images, that should make it much easier for members here to understand what to look out for when hunting down the long seat version. (by the way that long seat looks fimiliar to me for some reason ;) )
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