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You chasing rolls-royce models now Gary... :o

Sorry to say the blue Superfast convertible is nothing special... :cry:

Better luck next time... :D

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The SF was in with the reg which i wanted.
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Ah well, a nice little bonus then.

What code is the regular wheel model.

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I would say 5 :?: to my un trained eye.
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Looking at your pictures and Nicks guide I think I agree. Does seem to have lost a lot of silver paint from the grille and headlamps but the metal wheels ensures it is not a late issue.

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Kev or any body how can i tell the difference between hand painted and spray :?:
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Hi Gary,

The hand painted trim generally has a distinct edge and is often quite thick but as it was done by different workers or outworkers the amount of coverage can vary.
There are a few videos of the ladies applying hand trim within the Lesney factory.
A hand trimmed model like the very top of the radiator on the Rolls would not be possible with mask spray because of the position of the spray gun, the mask and the position of the model when sprayed.

Mask spray was done by machine and for a preset time for each application. An easy way to tell the difference is that a mask spray will most likely have very tiny dots of paint on the edge.( best visible with the aid of an eye loupe) We call this overspray. I have some mint models where the overspray has reached the wheels and others where it is on the axles.
A blocked mask or a wonky spray jet sometimes caused part of a model eg one headlight or bumper to be missed.
I will dig out my models (not Rolls) and snap some pics of the errant mask spray models if you like.

Bert
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Hello Bert , YES please,
so can i say that hand painted was thick and spray thin /fine.
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ClOwY wrote:so can i say that hand painted was thick and spray thin /fine. Gary
Hi Gary,

Not always as can be seen in some my photos. If the operator applied the model to the mask more than once you would get a thick paint job.
Sometimes the paint ran also causing a thick area.
It is usually about the edge of the trim. It is closing in on 11pm over here so will try and take some pics of a very good example of what I mean in daylight.
In the meantime here are a few where the camera behaved and shows some nice detail.
The Bedford is a nice example of having a sharp trim edge on one side of the grille but the other you can see the tiny dots.
The compressor truck is a great example of very bad alignment to the mask that the underside got sprayed as well.
From the look of the radio truck it appears the bumper has a good coating but you can see the fine overspray on the wheels.
The Trojan has a paint run on one headlight possibly as a result of mask smudge.
The Marshall horse box is quite fine with the spray but pretty messy.
So all of these are mask sprayed yet because they have not been handled much the delicate trim has not worn, but if they had worn off it could be thought some were hand trimmed as only the thicker paint would be left behind. Rarely would you see overspray on a played with model on the wheels.

More later on the weekend.

Bert

click on the pic to see full detail. Apologies for order of models in relation to text.
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So spray wasnt as clean and sharp as by hand. I used to drive the green fodens40 years ago (army)
Thanks
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