I have just checked the rear suspension arm on both my yellow models and nothing appears broken. My orange and turquoise example has full width rear suspension in white plastic.
When I got my first yellow example I thought the rear suspension was missing/broken but when I posted it on the forum Dr. Jeep
on 30 Nov 2107 supplied the following information (see bottom 3 lines highlighted in bold text and listed earlier in this same thread)
DrJeep wrote:
Tinman wrote:It was a popular wheel hub that was used on several 1-75's, Majors & Kings. It was made in orange, yellow and red and in vast numbers
True, but some combinations are rare (yellow 69b Hatra with red wheels, for example). The M8b/K8 started with orange hubs but moved to red hubs at the end of the turquoise-orange K8s. My turquoise-yellow K8 has red hubs and red is definitely the most common colour on yellow K8s. As Sebastian says, yellow with orange wheels "may be quite rare". So please, Sebastian, a better picture - I'd really like to see the orange hubs, but in this tiny image they still look red to me!
Sebastian10 wrote:I have just double checked each of the wheel hubs on both sides and they are definitely orange, as is the remaining half of the plastic suspension bar above the rear axle
The suspension probably isn't broken - I think it's only the very last yellow K8s that have full width suspension. All the others have springing to just one wheel. Here's the bottom of my turquoise-yellow K8. This spring is orange, but the hubs are definitely red.
The springing won't appear broken, but it IS broken. Nylon breaks with no scar because it is an oily plastic ... it cannot be glued because of that.
My springing is tired one side and a tad away from breaking. If the spring breaks one side, then it frees the tension on the other side that prevents it from breaking further. The trailer will not sit true with only half a leaf (it isn't Citroen pneumatic suspension after all) so why would Matchbox design or only fit half a leaf? All the ones you show are broken at the typical break point.
As I said, ALL my Guy transporters oldest and newest have full leaf suspension so saying that the early models only ever had half suspension is ridiculous. Fact is, the older ones have had more time to get broken.
AJR wrote:The springing won't appear broken, but it IS broken. Nylon breaks with no scar because it is an oily plastic ... it cannot be glued because of that.
My springing is tired one side and a tad away from breaking. If the spring breaks one side, then it frees the tension on the other side that prevents it from breaking further. The trailer will not sit true with only half a leaf (it isn't Citroen pneumatic suspension after all) so why would Matchbox design or only fit half a leaf? All the ones you show are broken at the typical break point.
As I said, ALL my Guy transporters oldest and newest have full leaf suspension so saying that the early models only ever had half suspension is ridiculous. Fact is, the older ones have had more time to get broken.
When I posted the first Yellow Guy with orange wheels I stated on the 28th Nov 2017
Sebastian10 wrote:Sorry - this is the only picture I have - it was obtained from the previous owner about 6 months ago at the time of purchase.
However I have just double checked each of the wheel hubs on both sides and they are definitely orange, as is the remaining half of the plastic suspension bar above the rear axle.
Sebastian
Dr. Jeep then responded on 30th Nov 2017 with
"The suspension probably isn't broken - I think it's only the very last yellow K8s that have full width suspension. All the others have springing to just one wheel. Here's the bottom of my turquoise-yellow K8. This spring is orange, but the hubs are definitely red."
As this was the first Guy transporter I had bought I had accepted this explanation as correct but am quite willing to accept that the suspension is broken.
The main point of my posting seems to have been missed in that the model has orange wheels which may be a little harder to find than the standard red wheels version.
Sebastian10 wrote:
The main point of my posting seems to have been missed in that the model has orange wheels which may be a little harder to find than the standard red wheels version.
Sebastian
Hi Sebastian,
The orange hubs were not lost on me and thank you especially for the last group of close up photos, these are very good reference images and well done on finding a second model.
Glad you liked the photos. I wasn't actually searching for this one as I don't normally collect King Size models though when you see some of the great examples on the forum I am certainly feeling tempted to indulge a bit more in this area!
I have a Morestone Road Roller in red/green which is dying for some King Size company in Green!
Glad you liked it. There was one for sale in the US, in a similar condition to my first model, a few months ago, but with the Import VAT and extra postage to the UK I didn't bid on it and eventually it was sold on to someone else, so they are out there.
I found this second one here in the UK while searching for something else.
Thanks for showing this. I like these Guy transporters, and the yellow body with turquoise cab is a good combination. They're quite rare in this colour though quite a few have been shown here over the years. I'm sure I've seen a catalogue illustrated with this colour scheme, which might suggest it was planned rather than just made up with leftover cabs. Yours looks like it could do with a clean - gentle soap and warm water would probably do the trick.
and thank you especially for the last group of close up photos, these are very good reference images and well done on finding a second model.
