9D Boat and Trailer variation question

[Macdonald]

If we knew the full 'Time-Line' of this boat, I would not be surprised to find out that a different mix of plastic has been used for the mouldings, as in everyday life we have stuff that tends to discolour rather quickly when left exposed out of their containers and to me the Creamy-Tan hulls have just gone 'Off Colour' as a lot of White plastics do and again this is one model we would like to see in it's earliest form but still blister packed and an identical model from exactly the same year of issue out of packaging, just to see how they look.

Although what you say may be true, I do not think that we can completely discount the sporadic use of off-white to very light coffee coloured plastic by Lesney. We have seen it on the 9d boat, the Fire Station, at least one garage, and don't forget the 14c Lomas interior. The fact that the colour is uniform shows clearly that it is not a product of environmental factors (such as sunlight). It either started out that colour (my position), or underwent some kind of chemical change 9your position).

The color of the interior on the attached photo shows a uniform cream color and a distinct difference from the white hull. This particular model has been in my collection since the 1960s and has never been exposed to sunlight or smoke. I'm confident the original interior color is cream and not white. This appears to be a distinct variation. That said, the green deck model may very well have faded to cream from exposure to smoke or sunlight. Cheers, Macdonald

[numi]

The genuine cream-tan interiors on these boats do exist.Some are environmental,mainly smoke tarnish.Thanks for showing Macdonald
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[Macdonald]

The genuine cream-tan interiors on these boats do exist.Some are environmental,mainly smoke tarnish.Thanks for showing Macdonald
numi

Thanks Numi. I wonder if it makes sense to add this version as a variation much like the 14C Bedford Lomas Ambulance distinguishes between the interiors? Cheers, Macdonald

[Brad Pittiful]

a while back kwakers pointed out i had a tan interior green boat...never noticed it...they are tough to see on ebay...for me atleast

[Idris]

The genuine cream-tan interiors on these boats do exist.

I wonder if it makes sense to add this version as a variation much like the 14C Bedford Lomas Ambulance distinguishes between the interiors?

It does. Definitely.

[Macdonald]

The genuine cream-tan interiors on these boats do exist.

I wonder if it makes sense to add this version as a variation much like the 14C Bedford Lomas Ambulance distinguishes between the interiors?

It does. Definitely.

Thanks Idris. I agree. If Nick would like to add the variation I will be glad to provide photos to his liking. Cheers, Macdonald

[kwakers]

The white you are seeing under the left or the right seat is actually the inside of the stark white hull on your boat MacDonald, not any discolouration of your interior floor at all. That is a totally separate part from the deck as shown by George recently on the Forum. I cannot get a look at your right most Boat that has been called out by others here because I can see the left two and only 1/4 of that third right Boat on my own computer. That seems to be happening a lot lately with very wide pictures on our Forum, so maybe our old Dell is not WELL.....LOL OR, perhaps I am just a klutz with my computer skills. (Which sounds like the better description of many of my problems here!) I have now seen the right picture and the white area under it's seat proves discolouring from direct sunlight it would seem?
There are both a very distinct rare Tan (U.S. description/ light brown U.K. description) colored interior floor as the one you have pictured Macdonald, and also a little more common but ODD distinct cream floor. If we can picture all three floor colours as George has his own hull colours, that may be the best way to describe these plastic colour differences.
George's deck colours as pictured from his own collection have been part of Nick's listings for MANY years now, inspiring me to collect these odd Lesney deck colours for our own collection. While doing so, it became obvious to me the interior floors were also stock with the above two colours right from the factory as on MacDonald's left odd Tan floored version pictured here.
A model that is much harder to find is a genuine cream colored hull on one of these 9D Boats. Christian had pictured one of them on the Forum years ago from another collector's club member, but they are so illusive I have yet to find a genuine example like that one. Fades happen on these Boats, but they are very easy to distinguish because ALL their plastic parts fade alike, not just certain pieces of any given Boat in hand. (The lighter area under your seat on the right-most Boat may be a prime example of uniform sunfading?)
As a general statement of my own observations and findings, ALL the earlier Boats without the later strengthening braces are seen in "stock" colours only. (A sound generalization, help prove me wrong on that Please!). Only later in production, after the 2 side strengtheners were added for the Trailer to hold onto, did these odd plastic colour variations start being released out of the Lesney Factory in very small numbers.
All of the above comparisons to other known odd Lesney plastic colour uses are valid MacDonald, and many of them have been discussed and noted by us here on the Forum, but most of these odd plastic colours have never been noted at all on Nick's site as variations. Somehow George's Boat deck colours was a groundbreaking picture at Nick's variation site over 8 years ago now, but no others featuring odd Lesney plastic use have ever been added since. kwakers

[GHOSTHUNTER]

Dick, any picture not displaying fully can be 'Left click and dragged' across to a lighter empty part of your screen to see if the rest of the model is present, if it is just right click it and save it for viewing at your leisure!

Ghosthunter.

[motorman]

Dick, any picture not displaying fully can be 'Left click and dragged' across to a lighter empty part of your screen to see if the rest of the model is present, if it is just right click it and save it for viewing at your leisure!

Ghosthunter.

Kev, I have been having the same issues with images being cut off when i am using my iPad tablet, and being a touch screen I cannot use any left click method of seeing the whole image, (any suggestions for touch screen users?).

Dick looks like you are not alone with this issue

[johnboy]

Will it work if you click/tap the image and zoom out?