65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Sorry I didn't think about that. Thank you for the explanation.
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Probably a combination of a number of variables such as paint hardness (itself a function of colour, thickness, and hardening time), degree of degreasing of the casting, tool force, tool rotational speed, phase of the moon etc.fixer wrote:I've always assumed it was from the riveting tool damaging the paint, why some are affected more than others beats me
Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Thanks for the much clearer pics.
There seems to be flattening of the rivet flares and some depression around the base rivet hole lending us to believe that there could have been greater pressure being exerted during rivetting.The distress showing up on the hood & boot seems to have been initially minimal but inconspicious & gradual yet enhanced/accelerated by some impurity/oxidation showing up over time,hence the cracking/chipping of the oven baked enamel.
This casting also seems extraordinarily rough perhaps thru excessive fettling. Perhaps Tinman could tell us more.
Are there any casting differences that ure able to notice?
numi
There seems to be flattening of the rivet flares and some depression around the base rivet hole lending us to believe that there could have been greater pressure being exerted during rivetting.The distress showing up on the hood & boot seems to have been initially minimal but inconspicious & gradual yet enhanced/accelerated by some impurity/oxidation showing up over time,hence the cracking/chipping of the oven baked enamel.
This casting also seems extraordinarily rough perhaps thru excessive fettling. Perhaps Tinman could tell us more.
Are there any casting differences that ure able to notice?
numi
numi
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Thanks Fixer, I will compare it to the Bea coach this evening and snap some more shots of them together if it looks like a match.
Numi, i compared all 3 of the castings even looking inside the cabin towards the front and can see no differences in them.
What I did notice and can be seen in the pictures already uploaded is how the rear windscreen roof line appears to slope down to the right on all 3 models.
Numi, i compared all 3 of the castings even looking inside the cabin towards the front and can see no differences in them.
What I did notice and can be seen in the pictures already uploaded is how the rear windscreen roof line appears to slope down to the right on all 3 models.
Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Are u talking about this section of the roof? If yes, then i had noticed this earlier and they are the actual casting design and not any sort of damage.Unfortunately most early castings are not symmetrical due to lack of computer/laser technology which we have today but have been sort of hand crafted and then metal-moulded and cast.slicc64 wrote: What I did notice and can be seen in the pictures already uploaded is how the rear windscreen roof line appears to slope down to the right on all 3 models.
The more experienced collectors could tell us more.
numi
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
yes..,that's the area i'm talking about.
havent managed to get the pictures next the bea coach this evening.
went on a spending spree instead
bought hundreds of white metal kits from eighties and earlier so have been sorting those
Do my best to get it done tomorrow.
havent managed to get the pictures next the bea coach this evening.
went on a spending spree instead
bought hundreds of white metal kits from eighties and earlier so have been sorting those
Do my best to get it done tomorrow.
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Oh! do please let us see those 80's White Metal kits. Create a new thread in 'The Lounge' for them and post the pictures in there, I love White Metal kits.
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Hello Ghosthunter,
OK mate but you will have to give me some time on that,
there all 143 scale
meri
smts
riva
starter
century
plubies
amr
western ect
a few dinky, corgi and conrad franklin mint 118 danbury mint 1 18 all from the same collector and he still has more!!
Will be back at his place tomorrow night after work and spend some more cash.
OK mate but you will have to give me some time on that,
there all 143 scale
meri
smts
riva
starter
century
plubies
amr
western ect
a few dinky, corgi and conrad franklin mint 118 danbury mint 1 18 all from the same collector and he still has more!!
Will be back at his place tomorrow night after work and spend some more cash.
Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Heres a pic proving that your base rivet contours are correct.
numi
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Re: 65 a jag 3.4 litre dark blue. Real or Fake ??
Thanks Numi.
Have a mate with a boxed Jag and hell drop it here for me in the morning so I'll see what colour his is when I get home later in the day.
Mornings are always a rush !!
Have a mate with a boxed Jag and hell drop it here for me in the morning so I'll see what colour his is when I get home later in the day.
Mornings are always a rush !!