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Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:33 pm
by Pierkemimi
Idris wrote:That looks like a dried paint ridge rather than a casting ridge to me.
Sorry for the bad picture but it is a ridge and not a paint one.
If you could have the model in your hand you will see it clearly.

Kurt

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:45 pm
by mike
Pierkemimi wrote:
Idris wrote:That looks like a dried paint ridge rather than a casting ridge to me.
Sorry for the bad picture but it is a ridge and not a paint one.
If you could have the model in your hand you will see it clearly.

Kurt
maybe a metal casting defect?

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:42 pm
by GHOSTHUNTER
Hi Guys, it is going to take a couple of beaters that can be stripped of all paint to establish this issue conclusively, because even the best pictures are not good enough to see what is really happening with this part of the tipper body.

Ghosty.

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:40 pm
by Pierkemimi
Dear collectors,

First off all, I spend the time to verify the list of variations to check my model.
Second, since I didn't find the variation in the list I was wondering if anyone else has the variation also.

If I wasn't sure I wouldn't take the time to come out with this variation.
It is a real one without any modifications. It is very played, the paint isn"t beautifull.
If Nick does or doesn't take the variation in the list doesn't matter for me.
I only want to present this new variation to all the members to keep the search for new models and variations interesting.

Hopefully everyone is satisfied while I go further to put my collection in boxes.

If I do find new variations I will post again.

gr Kurt

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:07 pm
by Idris
Pierkemimi wrote:Dear collectors,

First off all, I spend the time to verify the list of variations to check my model.
Second, since I didn't find the variation in the list I was wondering if anyone else has the variation also.

If I wasn't sure I wouldn't take the time to come out with this variation.
It is a real one without any modifications. It is very played, the paint isn"t beautifull.
If Nick does or doesn't take the variation in the list doesn't matter for me.
I only want to present this new variation to all the members to keep the search for new models and variations interesting.

Hopefully everyone is satisfied while I go further to put my collection in boxes.

If I do find new variations I will post again.

gr Kurt
Please don't take the comments which have been made the wrong way.
On the basis of what I've seen, there is a genuine ridged-base casting variation and there are models where the ridge is caused by paint drying underneath the tailgate when it has ended up the wrong side of the tipper opening. Since the former is htf/rare (or maybe just extremely hard to spot in Ebay photographs!), it is important that we sort out exactly how to identify the casting variation and how we can recognise the dried paint ridge. This is only going to happen if we all have a full and frank discussion and, regrettably, it is inevitable that some people will be disappointed.
For what it's worth, I currently think that the ridged casting variation can be recognised by the ridge being in line with the ends of the grooves in the tipper bed. If the ridge crosses those grooves then, at present, I believe it to represent dried paint rather than metal.

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:10 pm
by Tinman
The photos clearly show a dried paint ridge (which occurs in when the tailgate if flipped inside the bed as idris mentions). As also mentioned, the ridge is in the wrong location to be the casting ridge which has been discussed.

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:26 pm
by fixer
Pierkemimi wrote:Dear collectors,

First off all, I spend the time to verify the list of variations to check my model.
Second, since I didn't find the variation in the list I was wondering if anyone else has the variation also.

If I wasn't sure I wouldn't take the time to come out with this variation.
It is a real one without any modifications. It is very played, the paint isn"t beautifull.
If Nick does or doesn't take the variation in the list doesn't matter for me.
I only want to present this new variation to all the members to keep the search for new models and variations interesting.

Hopefully everyone is satisfied while I go further to put my collection in boxes.

If I do find new variations I will post again.

gr Kurt
Kurt chill man I have posted what I thought were great finds , 3b red tipper grey wheels ,silver trim to the front ,this is not listed by Nick but mine shows some gold trim to the exhaust , also a 65c combine with green wheels viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2508 looked good to me but minute clues to a wheel swap were spotted by a few members
yes things are different in hand and pictures can expose faults not apparent to the naked eye ,I hope you are correct in observations and any new finds are important to share some will be just a glitch in production paint odd wheels wrong parts fitted some will be intentional Mick's (SMS88) 19 F1 Lotus in yellow springs to mind viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1692 I recommend that you read these if you haven't already as they offer an insight into some of the expertise available here
keep hunting

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:29 am
by numi
Hi Kurt,please concentrate on the area as per pic by only using the Macro settings & zoom on your digi-cam.Add a few different-angled perfect close-up shots cos we have to wade thru the crinkled bits of thick,uneven paint to decipher the raised ridge as requested.
We are all here to help out so please do not feel despondent by our varying input and views which are welcome and what better way for us all to learn.
numi

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:57 pm
by Tinman
numi wrote:Hi Kurt,please concentrate on the area as per pic by only using the Macro settings & zoom on your digi-cam.Add a few different-angled perfect close-up shots cos we have to wade thru the crinkled bits of thick,uneven paint to decipher the raised ridge as requested.
We are all here to help out so please do not feel despondent by our varying input and views which are welcome and what better way for us all to learn.
numi
It might be easier to determine in hand as noted. Regardless, it's a minor variation which does not add any value and should be cataloged for his collection however ever he sees fit. If an when it changes hands, let the next person worry about it.

Re: 3B bedford tipper

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:44 pm
by Pierkemimi
numi wrote:Hi Kurt,please concentrate on the area as per pic by only using the Macro settings & zoom on your digi-cam.Add a few different-angled perfect close-up shots cos we have to wade thru the crinkled bits of thick,uneven paint to decipher the raised ridge as requested.
We are all here to help out so please do not feel despondent by our varying input and views which are welcome and what better way for us all to learn.
numi
Will see what I can do to take perfect shots with my camera. How to chance the macro settings on my camera will be a task that I never have done. Next problem also find the model again after a few days of work. Where did I left it ?
Also the tip concerning the thick paint keeps my interesting without damaging the model. Until later.

Kurt