Y-16 Mercedes

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Y-16 Mercedes

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When I was seriously collecting`"Yesteryears", this model always evaded me, I was constantly on the look-out for it at a price I could afford. Now I have nearly given up collecting (it's a hard hobby to break!) I have in the space of three months come across three. All came from Switzerland, are almost mint and from the same auction site but different sellers. Not knowing the reason for this colour scheme only that it is hard to come by, I can only assumed that Switzerland got more than it's fair share of this model or are there other explanations?

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These are pretty cheap nowadays, and there were a lot more made than collectors were led to believe at the time of manufacture. £200 was not an uncommon price then, now around £50-£75 at most I would think.
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I know very little about YesterYears issues and i don't collect them, but i have to admit that this particular model is simply stunning especially with that colour scheme.

Can you tell me if the model is based on a real Mercedes car 1:1 and if so did the real car also carry two spares like the model does?

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motorman wrote:I know very little about YesterYears issues and i don't collect them, but i have to admit that this particular model is simply stunning especially with that colour scheme.

Can you tell me if the model is based on a real Mercedes car 1:1 and if so did the real car also carry two spares like the model does?

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Based on the Mercedse Benz "SS" and the real car did have two spare wheels.

Try this link, sorry it's in German but the photo's are good!

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http://www.google.de/imgres?sa=X&biw=12 ... 1,s:0,i:85
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The story was that Bob Brennan, the US importer wanted something to generate sales and interest so the chassis colour of this model was changed from the standard body colour to the emerald green shade ( start of making variations to collect - buy 2 instead of one !!) . Most were supposed to have gone to the US but did a batch get to Switzerland ??
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Viewfield wrote:
motorman wrote:I know very little about YesterYears issues and i don't collect them, but i have to admit that this particular model is simply stunning especially with that colour scheme.

Can you tell me if the model is based on a real Mercedes car 1:1 and if so did the real car also carry two spares like the model does?

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Based on the Mercedse Benz "SS" and the real car did have two spare wheels.

Try this link, sorry it's in German but the photo's are good!

Rod
Thanks for the link Rod, that really is one beast of a motor car. Look superb in real life
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I got my two-tone one about 20 years back, they were dear then, but I think that today the first casting with a differential on the base is harder to find, or at least it comes up less than the two-tone one.

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With and with-out the diff; casting.

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kerbside wrote: With and with-out the diff; casting.
Now that's an odd casting variation because it would involve adding material to the tool (rather than removing it which is what we normally see). I wonder whether they had to recut the baseplate tool in order to make this change.
Any ideas why this was necessary? Problems fitting the rear axle perhaps?
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Yes, problem was the rear axle. Being a production line it was hit or miss if the axle went in so this mod was done fairly quickly. They are a lot rarer to find than the 2 tone so definitely agree with George. The problem with the likes of Ebay is that seller usually only shows one photo of the model so you never see the base which makes it difficult to know how many are actually sold.
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The trunk on the back of these can be smooth or textured. This applies to both base plate types. Textured trunk with cast diff is by far the hardest to find.
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