33a Ford Zodiac Mk. II
33a Ford Zodiac Mk. II
The NAMC’s “Catalog of all Series Matchbox Models” (second edition) has a number of intriguing entries:
- Variation 33-1D is for a green model, c/a, with light or dark GPW. However, it is unclear what is meant by GPW since variation 33-1E is listed as having either large or small KGPW, whilst variation 33-1I (a two-tone model) has large dark KGPW. Nick only lists 8 x 18 and 9 x 20 GPW for the 33a, but the NAMC listing implies the existence of a third, fine-tread GPW wheel type.
- Variation 33-1F is the two-tone model with small KGPW (8 x 18?), but with clear windows.
- Variation 33-1H is the two-tone model with SPW, but with clear windows.
I suspect the GPW issue is a red herring, but can anyone confirm the existence of clear windows on this model?
The AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) puts the two-tone models into two distinct groups: tan/orange (with or without windows) and silver-tan/orange (always with windows). Can anyone confirm (or, even better, illustrate) this colour difference?
Stannard has one new variation. His code 33a-7 is the same as Nick's variation code 12 (i.e. sea-green body, DH, c/a, small 33, thin webs,type 3 bonnet, type 3 roof, short ejector post, type 2 trim, no windows), but with 9 x 20 GPW. If confirmed, this would slot into Nick's table as variation code 14.
Houghton's variation table must contain a mistake since he codes for the plain roof interior (footnote 4), but does not use it. He also illustrates a blue model, but has no entry for it. His variation code 6 is given as light metallic blue (8.5 x 18 MW, DH, c/a, small 33 matt black, thin webs, type 3 bonnet, type 3 roof, short ejector post, type 2 trim, no windows). My guess would be that this represents some kind of colour trial since a pre-production in silver is also known.
His variation code 9 matches Nick's variation code 12 but with 9 x 20 GPW, i.e. the same as Stannard's code 33a-7. In addition. Houghton's code 10 is as his code 9 but with a gloss black baseplate. If confirmed, these would slot into Nick's variation table as codes 14 and 15.
U.K. Matchbox covered the model in Vol. 5 No. 2 (Jun. '81), p52 with a follow-up in Vol. 5 no. 3 (Aug. '81) p87. The article states "the 33a was first released in pale blue but examples of this colour are rare and it is probable that, in company with many rare coloured very early issues of 1-75 series models, this colour was applied to the final trail run only models which were subsequently released with the models in the more normal early colour scheme...". This pale blue variation is given variation code 1 and is listed with FH, c/a. Does anyone have one of these models to show the rest of the Forum?
The question of whether the blue model is a legitimate variation has been discussed on the Forum several times. In terms of catalogues, the verdicts are as follows:
NAMC - not listed
AIM - not listed
Stannard - listed (1 variation)
Houghton - not listed
UKM - not listed
Leake -not listed
Nick Jones - listed (3 variations)
"Ye pays ye money 'n' ye takes ye choice" as they say......
ADDENDUM: In Lesney Link no. 3 (p68) it is reported that a c/a GPW 33a Ford Zodiac has been found in the same colour as the 44a Rolls Royce. No second example seems to have been found. Is this the 'pale blue' version referred to above?
- Variation 33-1D is for a green model, c/a, with light or dark GPW. However, it is unclear what is meant by GPW since variation 33-1E is listed as having either large or small KGPW, whilst variation 33-1I (a two-tone model) has large dark KGPW. Nick only lists 8 x 18 and 9 x 20 GPW for the 33a, but the NAMC listing implies the existence of a third, fine-tread GPW wheel type.
- Variation 33-1F is the two-tone model with small KGPW (8 x 18?), but with clear windows.
- Variation 33-1H is the two-tone model with SPW, but with clear windows.
I suspect the GPW issue is a red herring, but can anyone confirm the existence of clear windows on this model?
The AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) puts the two-tone models into two distinct groups: tan/orange (with or without windows) and silver-tan/orange (always with windows). Can anyone confirm (or, even better, illustrate) this colour difference?
Stannard has one new variation. His code 33a-7 is the same as Nick's variation code 12 (i.e. sea-green body, DH, c/a, small 33, thin webs,type 3 bonnet, type 3 roof, short ejector post, type 2 trim, no windows), but with 9 x 20 GPW. If confirmed, this would slot into Nick's table as variation code 14.
Houghton's variation table must contain a mistake since he codes for the plain roof interior (footnote 4), but does not use it. He also illustrates a blue model, but has no entry for it. His variation code 6 is given as light metallic blue (8.5 x 18 MW, DH, c/a, small 33 matt black, thin webs, type 3 bonnet, type 3 roof, short ejector post, type 2 trim, no windows). My guess would be that this represents some kind of colour trial since a pre-production in silver is also known.
His variation code 9 matches Nick's variation code 12 but with 9 x 20 GPW, i.e. the same as Stannard's code 33a-7. In addition. Houghton's code 10 is as his code 9 but with a gloss black baseplate. If confirmed, these would slot into Nick's variation table as codes 14 and 15.
U.K. Matchbox covered the model in Vol. 5 No. 2 (Jun. '81), p52 with a follow-up in Vol. 5 no. 3 (Aug. '81) p87. The article states "the 33a was first released in pale blue but examples of this colour are rare and it is probable that, in company with many rare coloured very early issues of 1-75 series models, this colour was applied to the final trail run only models which were subsequently released with the models in the more normal early colour scheme...". This pale blue variation is given variation code 1 and is listed with FH, c/a. Does anyone have one of these models to show the rest of the Forum?
The question of whether the blue model is a legitimate variation has been discussed on the Forum several times. In terms of catalogues, the verdicts are as follows:
NAMC - not listed
AIM - not listed
Stannard - listed (1 variation)
Houghton - not listed
UKM - not listed
Leake -not listed
Nick Jones - listed (3 variations)
"Ye pays ye money 'n' ye takes ye choice" as they say......
ADDENDUM: In Lesney Link no. 3 (p68) it is reported that a c/a GPW 33a Ford Zodiac has been found in the same colour as the 44a Rolls Royce. No second example seems to have been found. Is this the 'pale blue' version referred to above?
Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. III
I think, this could be the colour variation.Idris wrote:The AIM's “1-75 Series Regular Wheels” catalogue (second printing, 1983) puts the two-tone models into two distinct groups: tan/orange (with or without windows) and silver-tan/orange (always with windows). Can anyone confirm (or, even better, illustrate) this colour difference?
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Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. III
There is a wide spectrum of the shades/colours.
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Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. III
That is very clearly much more than a shade difference.kerbside wrote:Hello Antonin here are two of mine showing the colour difference, as you can see they both have windows.
Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. III
Very nice photo George. The colour difference is clearly visible on your photo also. I have the model without windows, but the painting difference is very small.
Antonin
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Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. III
Right again. (Grrrr...)AJR wrote:It's a Zodiac Mk2
Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. II
Please note that the first post in this topic has been updated with information gleaned from Lesney link
Re: 33a Ford Zodiac Mk. II
Rather unsatisfactory photograph here.Idris wrote:ADDENDUM: In Lesney Link no. 3 (p68) it is reported that a c/a GPW 33a Ford Zodiac has been found in the same colour as the 44a Rolls Royce.