23b Berkeley Cavalier "metallic green" Fake

[paelzermaen]

Anybody seen this, going for € 213.- ?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Matchbox-Lesney ... true&rt=nc

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I would not even call it a fake, more a restauration, as the colour is far off and the tow hitch is repaired with some piece of tin. Interesting is the double crimped axle. That´s good work.
Are collectors getting older and loosing their eyesight?

[Idris]

Yes, I spotted that one. It simply beggars belief that someone is prepared to pay that kind of money for something which is so far removed from the genuine article, especially when there is so much good-quality reference material freely available online.
As the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.

[Sebastian10]

I noticed this one as well - to me the hook looked incredibly bad and the paint looked as if it had been sprayed yesterday from an aerosol can - hammerite maybe?

Sebastian

[yellowfoden]

As the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.

And judging by the look of the tow hitch that will be parting soon as well.

The seller I believe is a member here and it is interesting that the words genuine or original are not used in the listing. So the buyer has pretty much based their choice on the images.

Are collectors getting older and loosing their eyesight?

Perhaps they are, 11 bidders thought this was ok, another put his/her glasses on and retracted their bid.

What is stated though is that this is said to be a "near mint" model and if this is what the collectors feel is near mint I think the standards are slipping.

From the dodgy hitch, the dual axle end crimps and the after market signage on back my grading would be somewhat different.

Bert

[GHOSTHUNTER]

His other matchbox models which include the hard to find metallic green ('Applegreen') Bentley yesteryear model all seem genuine, so maybe he aquired the caravan from another source and is not directly connected to its dubious status.

Ghosthunter.

[mmi]

His other matchbox models which include the hard to find metallic green ('Applegreen') Bentley yesteryear model all seem genuine, so maybe he aquired the caravan from another source and is not directly connected to its dubious status.

Ghosthunter.

con bay supports parlor trick selling, as suspect photos can be used to explain away any deception because it is "shown"
and searching this item does not show in USA or UK.....? suspect #2,...knowledgeable buyer
he is a regular list er in USA
I look but have always stayed away,many legitimate looking pieces,but items ALWAYS bid more than normal sales,and high $$ items just dont make me feel warm inside.

in reality of running away from listings.. speed ....mw/phil, cry,ishmar,....3 paces sosj (wishing for "click" to remove from search option)

[petethesweet]

Hi all, I don't think it is really a fake, as the colour green is a mile away from the original green. Anybody collecting matchbox could tell by the axle ends, its a shame for somebody to fork out all that dough for something that is only worth 99p. Pete.

[mmi]

Hi all, I don't think it is really a fake, as the colour green is a mile away from the original green. Anybody collecting matchbox could tell by the axle ends, its a shame for somebody to fork out all that dough for something that is only worth 99p. Pete.

not saying "its a fake" but at the same time he knows enough that it should be written screaming repaint/damaged
only listing in a lesser "knowledge " market is dodgy also.

it is in the same shadowy sales area ,as respected machinery dealers that can sell official mfg (original /republished) service, manuals or cds for $5-35
but only offer 33 rd generation incomplete ,poor xerox copies for $40-$350 as rare,while purchasing them by the case.
example
2x $ over priced high end retail ,original manual
152997301980
vs high end dealer cheap copy, it doesn't set right for 500 pages
323692287069
both can be had for < $25 total