Yet another tan & orange 30b crane!

[matchboxmarcel]

what do you think of this crane recently posted on a Dutch auction site ?

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/hobby-en-v ... ousPage=lr

Looking forward to your comments.

marcel

[Idris]

Although this model is actually on a Dutch auction site, it seemed most appropriate to have the topic in the Ebay category.

I've had a look at the listing photographs and cannot see any immediately obvious issues, but on a model of this rarity, a careful, in-depth analysis is required.

[DrJeep]

Is this a thick hook? Yellowfoden says the thick hook is too late for the tan models. The ejector ring looks like it's proud of the surface, not indented, which is also said to be a sign of a later casting, though this could just be the way it's catching the light. There's no silver trim either, though this could just be a factory error. The small ends of the axles look good. As Idris says, you'd need it in your hand to be sure.

[yellowfoden]

Is this a thick hook? Yellowfoden says the thick hook is too late for the tan models.

Hi Glenn,

Just a note to clarify the thick hook terminology.
The thick hook shown on the USA sold model in 2 July 2018 (BST) has a round rope pulley block and thick ropes.
The hook shown on the marktplaats model has the 6 sided rope pulley block and is even later again in production in terms of the 30b. It does have the type 1 jib from what I can see but the painting of this style hook is inconsistent with what we know of timelines so far. The unpainted hexagonal metal hook came in at Stannard code 11 or Jones code 12 for the 30b. Neither the 18mm or 20mm hexagonal have been catalogued as painted on the 30b.
I prefer to use Stannard hook codes because Nick does not differentiate between round and hexagonal rope pulley blocks and it is very easy to incorrectly code the 30b if one goes by thick 20mm hook description alone.
Briefly the metal hooks should be described as 20mm thin round, 20mm thick round,18mm hexagonal, 20mm hexagonal.
Then there are the plastic hooks.

Please find attached line drawings as how Stannard describes the hooks.

This hopefully will aid other collectors with some of the finer points of 1-75 variations.

Bert

[GHOSTHUNTER]

Marktplaats model detail.

So this is the later (Hexagonal) block.

Ghosthunter.

[DrJeep]

the metal hooks should be described as 20mm thin round, 20mm thick round,18mm hexagonal, 20mm hexagonal.

Thanks, Bert - that really helps me understand the 30b much better. Even though I had my own silver-bodied round-hooked model on my desk, I didn't notice the difference in the shape of the pulley block! So wrong hook, no silver trim, proud ejector ring. I wouldn't be bidding.

[numi]

This tan magirus seems to have been dunked hence the thick coating and the color is completely off besides other dynamics & differences being discovered.Have u guys also noticed that the axle-webs have been drilled?
numi

[Maestro]

This tan magirus seems to have been dunked hence the thick coating and the color is completely off besides other dynamics & differences being discovered.Have u guys also noticed that the axle-webs have been drilled?
numi

Hi Numi,

What do you mean by the 'axle-webs'?

Maarten

[Idris]

By 'axle webs', Numi means the triangular plates through which the axles pass. Drilling them out allows a peened axle head to pass through them, meaning that the faker then has to concentrate on getting just one wheel back on the axle rather than having to remachine the peened end.

[Maestro]

By 'axle webs', Numi means the triangular plates through which the axles pass. Drilling them out allows a peened axle head to pass through them, meaning that the faker then has to concentrate on getting just one wheel back on the axle rather than having to remachine the peened end.

Thanks!