Idris wrote:If this 3b example matches that specification, then it could be seen as evidence that a significant number of faulty chassis castings were produced and made it through to retail outlets.
Even though it’s obviously an error, it’s definitely one I’d like.
So the inlet end of the exhaust on this example is just an error - but what about the grey base and end exhaust support? It feels too far out of the timeline for this model.
DrJeep wrote:So the inlet end of the exhaust on this example is just an error - but what about the grey base and end exhaust support? It feels too far out of the timeline for this model.
I've just checked the photograph in Houghton and that example clearly has the end exhaust support.
The missing rear support is not a variation, it's an error. They would fail to form and those that did could get knocked out during fettling. The ones with the bent/detached front of the exhaust are due to the them failing to form a connection at the front end and then would be bent during fettling. That's why the partially formed front end is often rounded. On Lafora I posted a photo of my former 3b with a partially formed rear brace.
Hi Jb,this bedford find is quite interesting and shouldnt be dismissed so easily.Could u kindly post a pic of the cab floor showing the spekkles of gray paint and also a pic of the both axle-ends and the tipper biff rivet.
Thanks numi
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Hi Numi, thanks for the post. I've been remiss here because I forgot to post a follow up to this thread. The model is tucked away now, but I did have some great tips from Bert at the time. Looking at my notes some things are right about this model, some things are wrong, including the spray pattern and the biff. The inside of the baseplate is devoid of any paint, the axle ends looked ok to the naked eye but the grey colour generally didn't quite stack up against other models. So this one was filed away in that box marked "ah well, maybe next time"
johnboy wrote:Hi Numi, thanks for the post. I've been remiss here because I forgot to post a follow up to this thread. The model is tucked away now, but I did have some great tips from Bert at the time. Looking at my notes some things are right about this model, some things are wrong, including the spray pattern and the biff. The inside of the baseplate is devoid of any paint, the axle ends looked ok to the naked eye but the grey colour generally didn't quite stack up against other models. So this one was filed away in that box marked "ah well, maybe next time"
Now thats honesty one can trust!... i salute JB!
Hopefully some day soon u would find one
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Whilst we are on the Bedford topic i was wondering if the chassis/exhaust bracket areas circled in blue (Tinmans pic) could have casting differences and if there are any then that could lend credence to the fact that the rear exhaust bracket wasnt initially thought about thus ommitted but later added on when the factory corrected/strengthened the exhaust after discovering that they broke off quite easily during fettling and rough play by the kids.
Could someone on this forum at their leisure undertake to do comparisons with the early & later codes and let us know their findings.
Thanks in advance.
numi
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I am not sure exactly what you are asking for but as I have a couple of these early models I thought I would have a go at replying.
Unfortunately at present I can't find my playworn model but did find the boxed model as shown below.
I can confirm that this has no trace of any stump or remnant of a third exhaust bracket and the exhaust 'tail pipe' and chassis 'rail' above it are both painted all over albeit the paint seems to be of a thin coating.
I compared this example with a later model with grey wheels and didn't find any casting variations in the exhaust area other than the addition of a third exhaust bracket.
Hope this helps
Happy collecting
Sebastian
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Not wishing to go off topic about braces but can you tell us about the gold colouring in the trim on the top of the bumper on this 3b. Is this just reflection from the box or is it in the paint or other coating?
What is it like on the model to the naked eye? Can you please have a look?
Sorry to disappoint you but I am afraid there is no gold colouring on the top of the bumper - it must just be a reflection from something in the background or foreground. The trim is just the standard silver colour. To go back on topic there is one similar to mine with no third exhaust bracket or remnant/stump that I can see with similar casting details at:
