Is this a counterfeit? Or the real deal.

[Tinman]

It's all about negotiation, but outside of ebay.

[numi]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/60s-Matchbox-Le ... 3cd9ee5143

Ebay item no. : 261354312003

This identical/same tractor was sold recently by TuT under one of his other Ebay ID.
Seller information
lesney111 (210 )
99.1% Positive feedback

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261320393642?ss ... _44wt_1285

[pannuage9@yahoo.com]

He got a couple of negs...interesting.

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[motorman]

He got a couple of negs...interesting.

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This is something i find confusing. You see i always thought that the e bay feedback system was set up in such a way that if the seller refunded a buyer in full after concerns were raised by the buyer regarding an item, then it was not possible to leave negative feedback.

Obviously i am wrong in that assumption, but any time i have tried to leave Negative feedback in similar circumstances, Ebay has prevented me from doing so because the seller cooperated to put things right. What am i doing wrong it just seems impossible at times to criticise sellers on Ebay.

[pannuage9@yahoo.com]

I've never left a negative feedback, but I notice the option to do so is there even before post has been confirmed delivered.
Ebay seems to change their rules and such at a moments notice, often without as so much of a warning.

[motorman]

I've never left a negative feedback, but I notice the option to do so is there even before post has been confirmed delivered.
Ebay seems to change their rules and such at a moments notice, often without as so much of a warning.

Paul, Honestly try leaving negative feedback when it's appropriate and i kid you not Ebay will put up so many barriers preventing you that eventually you give up!!!

[Ewan]

If someone ignores your complaints and you then open a case I think you can leave negative up until the point the case is closed. Looking at the 2 examples above I'd say that the 'Hard to deal' comment shows the buyer probably had to open a case. If I ever leave negative I make sure I mention it if I had to open a case. Genuine mistakes can occur, and genuine sellers will try to sort them. To my mind, the guys who ignore you to the point you have to open a case are the guys who know damn fine what they are selling and deserve every bit of negative they get.

[motorman]

If someone ignores your complaints and you then open a case I think you can leave negative up until the point the case is closed. Looking at the 2 examples above I'd say that the 'Hard to deal' comment shows the buyer probably had to open a case. If I ever leave negative I make sure I mention it if I had to open a case. Genuine mistakes can occur, and genuine sellers will try to sort them. To my mind, the guys who ignore you to the point you have to open a case are the guys who know damn fine what they are selling and deserve every bit of negative they get.

Very valid comments Ewan but i am still of the opinion that if a seller refunds your costs in full, despite all the hassle you may have gone to, you cannot leave Negative feedback?? Am i wrong about that because i would love to know for definate as i am at loggerheads with a complete a..hole on Ebay at the moment!!!!!

[Ewan]

If someone ignores your complaints and you then open a case I think you can leave negative up until the point the case is closed. Looking at the 2 examples above I'd say that the 'Hard to deal' comment shows the buyer probably had to open a case. If I ever leave negative I make sure I mention it if I had to open a case. Genuine mistakes can occur, and genuine sellers will try to sort them. To my mind, the guys who ignore you to the point you have to open a case are the guys who know damn fine what they are selling and deserve every bit of negative they get.

Very valid comments Ewan but i am still of the opinion that if a seller refunds your costs in full, despite all the hassle you may have gone to, you cannot leave Negative feedback?? Am i wrong about that because i would love to know for definate as i am at loggerheads with a complete a..hole on Ebay at the moment!!!!!

I may be wrong as it's been a while since I had to leave negative, it's usually on behalf of my wife - the worlds of perfume, jewellery and clothing make diecast look squeaky clean! Maybe it's when you raise a case into a dispute that I'm thinking of - it's ebay who end up forcing the issue over repayment, but once they've decided you can't leave any feedback. If you've already opened a case and enough time has elapsed, try raising it to a dispute and then immediately leaving negative.

[Idris]

Here's another iffy offering - just take a look at the turntable rivet. To my knowledge this is at least the third time that this model has been listed on Ebay.