38a Pre-Production?
Re: 38a Pre-Production?
I tend to agree with Hugh and also think it's probably and early preproduction model. Yellows were sometimes used on the first casting trials and this fits right in with everything else Hugh has noted. It is an exciting find.
It might be time to start my "Bucket List."
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Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Very interesting model Hugh!
I just checked the early catalogues as they sometimes show models in strange colours, which were never used. (or for prepro and trial only)
Matchbox catalogue from 1957 shows the model in green. That of course don't match your colour, but maybe give us a hint that Lesney not defined a colour for #38a at that time.
#40a is printed in the same colour.
Matchbox catalogue from 1958 shows the model in correct colour.
Here is a link showing the complete 1957 catalogue:
http://www.hgm-matchbox.de/Matchbox_Katalog_GB_1957.htm
There are many links at the left of the website, where you can choose between nearly all RW and SF catalogues!
Greetings,
Linus
I just checked the early catalogues as they sometimes show models in strange colours, which were never used. (or for prepro and trial only)
Matchbox catalogue from 1957 shows the model in green. That of course don't match your colour, but maybe give us a hint that Lesney not defined a colour for #38a at that time.
#40a is printed in the same colour.
Matchbox catalogue from 1958 shows the model in correct colour.
Here is a link showing the complete 1957 catalogue:
http://www.hgm-matchbox.de/Matchbox_Katalog_GB_1957.htm
There are many links at the left of the website, where you can choose between nearly all RW and SF catalogues!
Greetings,
Linus
Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Finally heard back from the seller, who is based in Birmingham. It sounds like he is simply a bit of a dabbler, buying and selling all sorts and, as a result, there is unfortunately no history available.Idris wrote:Now that I have it in the hand and cannot immediately fault it, I'm trying to get background information from the previous owner.mbox2000 wrote:What is the back story on this casting?
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Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Hi Hugh !
You outbid me in the very last second of the auction of this model
But I´m glad it was you, who got it
You outbid me in the very last second of the auction of this model
But I´m glad it was you, who got it
THOMAS
in Black Forest
in Black Forest
Re: 38a Pre-Production?
I wondered who else it was who had spotted it!paelzermaen wrote:Hi Hugh !
You outbid me in the very last second of the auction of this model
But I´m glad it was you, who got it
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Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Yep, spotted it half a hour before ending. Looked good for me, but was not 100 % sure, so my bid was not too high.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.
THOMAS
in Black Forest
in Black Forest
Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Shouldn´t it mean "Sometimes you loose, sometimes the others win"?paelzermaen wrote:Yep, spotted it half a hour before ending. Looked good for me, but was not 100 % sure, so my bid was not too high.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.
Roland
Variations are bad for limited showcases
Variations are bad for limited showcases
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Re: 38a Pre-Production?
Well, As an ex Hackney resident and ex hackney council worker I can tell you that when I first started working for them in 1980 a few of the councils older vehicles were painted a very similar yellow, the council changed the livery from all over yellow to white with a green roof, I spent 2 hours searching with google and found nothing but bing turned up this picture, is it a similar shade?.
the rim of the bin has LBHYC1189 marked on it, (london borough hackney council + bin number)
the rim of the bin has LBHYC1189 marked on it, (london borough hackney council + bin number)
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Re: 38a Pre-Production?
That does indeed look to be a similar colour (in as far as you can see the colour through the grime and filth!).nickjones wrote:Well, As an ex Hackney resident and ex hackney council worker I can tell you that when I first started working for them in 1980 a few of the councils older vehicles were painted a very similar yellow, the council changed the livery from all over yellow to white with a green roof, I spent 2 hours searching with google and found nothing but bing turned up this picture, is it a similar shade?.
Re: 38a Pre-Production?
well done hugh!
a dream find
dave
a dream find
dave