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Can we also note the different corner treatment highlighted in Yellow, on my first picture it is very nearly a right angle, but on our friend's model it has a radius, the model in the link is the same.
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Now look at the 'Flashing' highlighted in Red, yes this could be found on a 'Pre-Pro' plastic moulding, but to me it crys out for attention.

We are looking at Two differently moulded baseplates. I do not own the model in my first posted picture, but it has come from a reliable source and I am happy it is genuine.

I have added some brightness to the picture for clarity.

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The nik_stil Opel is a 'Code 3' model, it has been created to look like an original 'Pre-Pre' example with the word 'restored' in the model's description, so while it is not a fake in the true sense, it clearly shows it's baseplate to us and that is not a Lesney factory moulding.
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Terry, I know that you've seen the above posts regarding the Opel's baseplate.I would strongly recommend that you urgently respond before people start drawing their own conclusions.
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GHOSTHUNTER wrote:Can we also note the different corner treatment highlighted in Yellow, on my first picture it is very nearly a right angle, but on our friend's model it has a radius, the model in the link is the same.
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Makes me wonder if they came from the same source.......

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kay wrote:
Idris wrote:I would strongly recommend that you urgently respond before people start drawing their own conclusions.
Makes me wonder if they came from the same source.......
I don't like to say I told you so, but.........
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Idris wrote:I'll be perfectly honest and say that I'm not absolutely certain what resin moulding entails, but if it involves pouring liquid into a mould then that would fit with the air bubble theory.
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The base on Stil's model looks every bit like a resin casting.

Resin casting has been used by Lesney for pre-production models and various pre-production parts. Since the process does not lend itself to mass production, I would think the number of models assembled with resin cast parts would be very limited. Another question comes to mind; did Lesney reduce the pressure on it pre-production plastic parts for the same reasons they reduced the pressure on metal parts?
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Tinman wrote:The base on Stil's model looks every bit like a resin casting.

Resin casting has been used by Lesney for pre-production models and various pre-production parts. Since the process does not lend itself to mass production, I would think the number of models assembled with resin cast parts would be very limited. Another question comes to mind; did Lesney reduce the pressure on it pre-production plastic parts for the same reasons they reduced the pressure on metal parts?
Would the resin casting have been more for prototypes than preproduction. I have now checked my No7 refuse truck with the plastic base using an eye glass and there are no imperfections at all in the base.
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Is there a library anywhere on this site storing all Nik Stils photos from the models he sells so that in due course comparisons can be made with any models if needs be for authentication or otherwise, just a thought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/csc/nik_stil/m.ht ... =13&_rdc=1
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nearlymint wrote:
Tinman wrote:The base on Stil's model looks every bit like a resin casting.

Resin casting has been used by Lesney for pre-production models and various pre-production parts. Since the process does not lend itself to mass production, I would think the number of models assembled with resin cast parts would be very limited. Another question comes to mind; did Lesney reduce the pressure on it pre-production plastic parts for the same reasons they reduced the pressure on metal parts?
Would the resin casting have been more for prototypes than preproduction. I have now checked my No7 refuse truck with the plastic base using an eye glass and there are no imperfections at all in the base.
Many members here use the two terms interchangeably. How many models have to be made before a prototype becomes a pre-production? Both models fitting these terms often come from some Lesney connected source and not in a box via retail. That means some pre-production does not come from retail and some does. Regardless, the semantics are not well defined (and often used incorrectly) and this leads to further confusion. Perhaps I too have used the term incorrectly.
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