Superfast 36-d Hot Rod Draguar colour trial

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Superfast 36-d Hot Rod Draguar colour trial

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Hi!
Here is what the postman brought me this morning!
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Looks good Linus with unfinished date. Very nice mate!
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Very nice! Perhaps its #31 Lincoln shade?
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What a great find Linus! Are there any casting differences besides the date?
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Re: Superfast 36-d Hot Rod Draguar colour trial

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Hi all!
Thanks for your comments. I just had a quick view at the pictures, did some research and directly contacted the seller. You weren't able to see the uncomplete date on the pictures, but the rivet's looked fine to me. It costs less than 25€, what was the next reason to try it 8-)
Very nice! Perhaps its #31 Lincoln shade?
Yes that could match..sadly I haven't a SF Lincoln. The closest colour I could find in my collection is from a Superkings DAF Truck (with that hut on the back), although the Draguar seems to have a bit more gold in it's colour.
What a great find Linus! Are there any casting differences besides the date?
I would say it is the same casting to the production run models. I compared them a few times today and wasn't able to see any difference.

But I find a variation between production run models, which isn't listed at Nick's guide or Christians list. I'am sure someone noticed it before, but there is a small difference in the front wheel arches.
Don't know how to describe this, just have a look at the pictures :D

What do you think, how many were made of these met lime Draguars?

We know that the Draguar with light orange interior was the first issue. So first picture should be the first casting (same casting as my colour trial) and second picture the second casting.
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Re: Superfast 36-d Hot Rod Draguar colour trial

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I believe there are differences on the platform under the engine in an attempt to stop the engine falling out easily, now because the engine is with your example it seems silly trying to remove it to have a look, but if this is an early body casting and the 'Pre-Pro' status we are leveling at it, suggests it is, it should be easy to remove the engine, so you can compare the casting with a later production model and you don't say if those blocks in the wheel arches are on the Green model, are they there?

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likely 2 trays ie 2 dozen made to be included in management presentation to choose final issued model colour
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Very nice Linus - this would be a pre-production rather than colour trial with the incomplete date.

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I believe there are differences on the platform under the engine in an attempt to stop the engine falling out easily, now because the engine is with your example it seems silly trying to remove it to have a look, but if this is an early body casting and the 'Pre-Pro' status we are leveling at it, suggests it is, it should be easy to remove the engine, so you can compare the casting with a later production model and you don't say if those blocks in the wheel arches are on the Green model, are they there?

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You are right about the differences about the platform casting under the engine (also listed at Christians site). I carefully removed the engine (goes easy because it does not have the later added enginemounting), but it is still the same casting. My lime green Prepro does have the blocks, as my early run (gold primer, light orange interior) has. The Casting has been changed later in the models life, as my later run model (ivory or vanilla interior, I'm not sure on that) does not have these blocks.

Thanks for your info SMS88, a man full of knowledge!
Very nice Linus - this would be a pre-production rather than colour trial with the incomplete date.

Cheers,
Gavin
Also thanks to you Gavin for the correction. I had some difficulties to distinguish between colour trial and Prepro. But Prepro sounds even better :)
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Sir_Matchbox_96 wrote:
I believe there are differences on the platform under the engine in an attempt to stop the engine falling out easily, now because the engine is with your example it seems silly trying to remove it to have a look, but if this is an early body casting and the 'Pre-Pro' status we are leveling at it, suggests it is, it should be easy to remove the engine, so you can compare the casting with a later production model and you don't say if those blocks in the wheel arches are on the Green model, are they there?

GHOSTHUNTER.
You are right about the differences about the platform casting under the engine (also listed at Christians site). I carefully removed the engine (goes easy because it does not have the later added enginemounting), but it is still the same casting. My lime green Prepro does have the blocks, as my early run (gold primer, light orange interior) has. The Casting has been changed later in the models life, as my later run model (ivory or vanilla interior, I'm not sure on that) does not have these blocks.

Thanks for your info SMS88, a man full of knowledge!
Very nice Linus - this would be a pre-production rather than colour trial with the incomplete date.

Cheers,
Gavin
Also thanks to you Gavin for the correction. I had some difficulties to distinguish between colour trial and Prepro. But Prepro sounds even better :)
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Pre-production castings were often used for colour trials of NEW soon to be introduced models rather than existing models being considered for recolours - best known example is the reverse 13d wreckers all done before boom was thickened.The fact that the model appears totaææy complete and finished except for the last year digit implies development has been completed on this toy when this was made
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