65a unlisted variation
Re: 65a unlisted variation
Why not simply multiply the existing codes by 10 (e.g. 65a-1 becomes 65a-10, 65a-2 becomes 65a-20 etc.) in order to create space for new variations to be slotted in in their logical places whilst, at the same time, allowing collectors to keep their existing cataloguing (albeit by adding a zero to every label!)?
Re: 65a unlisted variation
That is an idea well worth considering Idris that will lock Nick's present codes, but give lots of room for future expansion. The only problem I still see in the future is where you will add any additional models between them. If code one becomes 10, and you find an earlier casting, do you call it 5? That would work I guess and leave many codes to slip in before and after both that 5 and the 10 spots. A column could also be added to indicate when these additional 'new' codes were discovered and added to Nick's tables.
I am now finding it interesting that Stannard missed the rear bumper or 'brace' on the 47C DAF Tipper Container Truck that I had thought was our new discovery here. In 8/13 we added that 'New' discovery to Nick's listings. A local collector casually looked at mine from nearlymint, and said 'Harold Colpitts had that one in AIM in the 80s'. Almost in shock, I ran home to not only find Harold had it in 1983, but had it with a stock regular wheel tow slot and also a last 'small tow slot', making TWO variations of that rear bumper or 'rear brace' as Harold had called and illustrated it 31 years ago in his guide. I never saw that coming, and now wonder how I missed them both!
We are slowly closing in on a complete regular wheel coding, but we still have lots of enjoyment left as we 'discover' more of these 'unknown oddities'. kwakers
I am now finding it interesting that Stannard missed the rear bumper or 'brace' on the 47C DAF Tipper Container Truck that I had thought was our new discovery here. In 8/13 we added that 'New' discovery to Nick's listings. A local collector casually looked at mine from nearlymint, and said 'Harold Colpitts had that one in AIM in the 80s'. Almost in shock, I ran home to not only find Harold had it in 1983, but had it with a stock regular wheel tow slot and also a last 'small tow slot', making TWO variations of that rear bumper or 'rear brace' as Harold had called and illustrated it 31 years ago in his guide. I never saw that coming, and now wonder how I missed them both!
We are slowly closing in on a complete regular wheel coding, but we still have lots of enjoyment left as we 'discover' more of these 'unknown oddities'. kwakers
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Re: 65a unlisted variation
I think the easiest way is to lock the codes after the update and then additional models can be added too the bottom of the list but to try and keep the timeline in order the new variations can be coded as 17(a) or 5(a), 5(b) etc so they keep their correct place in the timeline,
Nick Jones.
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Re: 65a unlisted variation
I would suggest to lock up the codes for one year and at the end of each year to make an update. Each new variation should be inserted into the list in the expected possition, but without any code, the possition should be marked as "pending". If this this variation would be confirmed by another member of the forum (or there would be no doubt about its authenticity) it should get its new code in the end of the year.nickjones wrote:I think the easiest way is to lock the codes after the update and then additional models can be added too the bottom of the list but to try and keep the timeline in order the new variations can be coded as 17(a) or 5(a), 5(b) etc so they keep their correct place in the timeline,
Antonin
Re: 65a unlisted variation
I hate to see a child disappointed so....I will trade you for your GPW version! What color slide would you like?Diecast wrote: I began to have a feeling about variations purely by chance. I had in my collection 57c Land Rover Fire Engine with GPW. All my classmates had 57c with black wheels. I wanted to swap it several times, because I did non like the grey wheels. Thankfully nobody of my classmates liked it also and therefore the 57c with GPW remained in my collection to this day.
Antonin
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Re: 65a unlisted variation
Unfortunately your proposal is coming up with a delay of about 50 yearsford_a_30 wrote:I hate to see a child disappointed so....I will trade you for your GPW version! What color slide would you like?Diecast wrote: I began to have a feeling about variations purely by chance. I had in my collection 57c Land Rover Fire Engine with GPW. All my classmates had 57c with black wheels. I wanted to swap it several times, because I did non like the grey wheels. Thankfully nobody of my classmates liked it also and therefore the 57c with GPW remained in my collection to this day.
Antonin
Antonin
Re: 65a unlisted variation
Could be confirmed the variation with one central ejector ring by someone? Does anybody another variation of the trim?
Antonin
Antonin
Re: 65a unlisted variation
Hi Antonin, I've checked all of mine and I don't have the single ejector, so that's one to look out for. I do have one with silver trim to the front spotlights and headlights though I have noticed that the mask sprayed trim to the rear licence plate is barely visible on a number of my models, I think possibly from clogged masks.
John
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Re: 65a unlisted variation
Hi Johnjohnboy wrote:Hi Antonin, I've checked all of mine and I don't have the single ejector, so that's one to look out for. I do have one with silver trim to the front spotlights and headlights though I have noticed that the mask sprayed trim to the rear licence plate is barely visible on a number of my models, I think possibly from clogged masks.
thanks for checking it. It seems to be quite rare (and long time overlooked) variation with one central ejector ring. The different size of the silver trim on the rear licence plate could be from clogged mask or bigger opening in the mask? I do not know.
Antonin
Re: 65a unlisted variation
I am enclosing my proposal of 65a-list. (HA - Hand Applied, MS - Mask Sprayed)
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