New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

[motorman]

Sorry but I still keep asking the question, and no one has provided me with a convincing response to the contrary:

This #19 is being touted as a Promo model, however this is the only example i have ever seen, so where are other examples of this promo??? Surely others would have surfaced over the past 40 years??

So far i have seen no supporting evidence of this being a promotion model on a large or a small scale.

I still am of the opinion that this is more likely to have been a colour trial to which a rogue piece of sellotape has been added over the years.

Just my thoughts, which appear to be falling on deaf ears.

[SMS88]

Sorry but I still keep asking the question, and no one has provided me with a convincing response to the contrary:

This #19 is being touted as a Promo model, however this is the only example i have ever seen, so where are other examples of this promo??? Surely others would have surfaced over the past 40 years??

So far i have seen no supporting evidence of this being a promotion model on a large or a small scale.

I still am of the opinion that this is more likely to have been a colour trial to which a rogue piece of sellotape has been added over the years.

Just my thoughts, which appear to be falling on deaf ears.

No touting on this thread.
There is no evidence yet either way that there were or were not any promotions at any time with factory yellow SF19 Lotuses. A number of undreamed of new factory special colours for regional markets with other models have come to light in the past 20 years including the green No 5 buses made for Sydney Australia. Tape printed with ´´Yum Yum´´ in orange isnt easy to find or make or transplant without cracking the orange paint of the lettering which makes it likely the tape was new when applied to the toy and the Quebec based chip maker who favours that colour for that name deserves time to reply to my email.We know here that there is still a small special run of black no17 Daimler Fleetlines out there for some special purpose that will one day be discovered................

[Idris]

There is no evidence yet either way that there were or were not any promotions at any time with factory yellow SF19 Lotuses.

Surely the evidence is that this is not a promotional is that only one example is known and that it has only just turned up.

A number of undreamed of new factory special colours for regional markets with other models have come to light in the past 20 years including the green No 5 buses made for Sydney Australia.

Whar are the other period models you are referring to here?

Tape printed with ´´Yum Yum´´ in orange isn't easy to find or make or transplant without cracking the orange paint of the lettering...

How do you know?

...which makes it likely the tape was new when applied to the toy...

Back in the realms of supposition!

[SMS88]

There is no evidence yet either way that there were or were not any promotions at any time with factory yellow SF19 Lotuses.

Surely the evidence is that this is not a promotional is that only one example is known and that it has only just turned up.

A number of undreamed of new factory special colours for regional markets with other models have come to light in the past 20 years including the green No 5 buses made for Sydney Australia.

Whar are the other period models you are referring to here?

Tape printed with ´´Yum Yum´´ in orange isn't easy to find or make or transplant without cracking the orange paint of the lettering...

How do you know?

...which makes it likely the tape was new when applied to the toy...

Back in the realms of supposition!

1. Just because members of this forum that have visited in the past week have no knowledge of any 1970-71 promo doesnt mean one didnt happen,it merely means that nobody here can remember one. If, as Jeff suggests,the tape is from a Quebec based local chip maker then only somebody who was collecting in Quebec in 1971 would be likely to know of any promotion which is why I have asked the company most likely to have ordered that tape made about it!

2. the tray of black SF17 Fleetlines Nigel saw on his visit to the factory & his telling us that they could have been making similar items any or every day and we still have no idea where these toys went or why

3 + 4. No, the realms of experience! As a child I spent a lot of time trying to remove stickers and transfers from items to cut about and decorate my cars with stripes,letters and logos from products + product packaging with just heat + water + scalpel to aid me. My experience with tape is that either the painted parts stretch when removed from where ever they were originally applied or if the tape is thick enough not to stretch then the letters tend to flake off

[Idris]

1. Just because members of this forum that have visited in the past week have no knowledge of any 1970-71 promo doesnt mean one didnt happen,it merely means that nobody here can remember one. If, as Jeff suggests,the tape is from a Quebec based local chip maker then only somebody who was collecting in Quebec in 1971 would be likely to know of any promotion which is why I have asked the company most likely to have ordered that tape made about it!

I am amazed by the fact that, when you find something unusual, it is automatically genuine, but when other people find interesting models, you immediately dismiss them as fakes. So many of the models you have dished on the Forum have later proven to be genuine (the silver trim 19c and the full front trim 68a spring to mind).

2. the tray of black SF17 Fleetlines Nigel saw on his visit to the factory & his telling us that they could have been making similar items any or every day and we still have no idea where these toys went or why

I asked you for further examples of factory special colours for regional markets of which a number have apparently come to light in the last 20 years. Please justify your claim.

3 + 4. No, the realms of experience!

I can only agree that you have a wealth of experience when it comes to making unsupported statements and indulging in flights of fancy!

[ogedei_voidoid]

Is it possible that the sticker may have come from a sticker sheet intended for something else & not necessarily removed from another item ? Train layout, model kit, 1/43 model etc or maybe a sheet that a 'yum yum' shop had for something else.

Theres a lot of food places called 'yum yum', could be any one or none of them. Its a case of narrowing down who would likely of operating around the time. Theres a yum yum burger joint in Dunstable, opposite the nick, thats been there 30 years that i can remember, they may well of been around prior to that though i doubt its them thats involved.

None of which answers why its painted yellow though...........

[motorman]

None of which answers why its painted yellow though...........

A colour trial answers why it was painted Yellow.

[Idris]

A colour trial answers why it was painted Yellow.

I agree. It also resolves the label isuue. (It is after-market.)

[GHOSTHUNTER]

...and I still go with a 'Colour Trial' model and put to good use as mentioned in my earlier post on page 5 of this thread. What else can the factory do with such low quantities of such models, they can not really be recycled (a term not used by toy companies in those days), so offer them to a small company happy to use them as a gift as part of a 'product promotion' for reasons we have yet to discover for this particular Lotus model.

Ghosty.

[Dr Jazz]

As I said earlier Labels a side this is a interesting find! I would be happy to rip that tape of and just have a yellow lotus 19c My english is good but not perfect so sometime I might lose the point of the discussion. I would not put any value or history in this label right now, but lets say that someone provides us info then I would. I don't read that Mick has claimed it was a promo, but that he would look into it. Right now there is no evidence of that. But there is a very rare yellow Lotus that you all seem to not care much about. Screw the label, the car is the treasure here