New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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Sorry, but i dont buy this guys,

All of a sudden an SF#19 matchbox promo purporting to be 40 years old, for a Doughnut company (probably American....which is confusing considering it's a british racing car) turns up in DENMARK (even more confusing, where's the connection?), no other examples have ever been seen or even talked about in collector circles or on Matchbox forums to my knowledge, and yet the general concensus appears to be that it's the real deal.

It just doesn't add up.
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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motorman wrote:Sorry, but i dont buy this guys,

All of a sudden an SF#19 matchbox promo purporting to be 40 years old, for a Doughnut company (probably American....which is confusing considering it's a british racing car) turns up in DENMARK (even more confusing, where's the connection?), no other examples have ever been seen or even talked about in collector circles or on Matchbox forums to my knowledge, and yet the general concensus appears to be that it's the real deal.

It just doesn't add up.
It adds up perfectly. Rivits plus paint plus sticky tape. Paint appears to be a perfect match for the yellow version of the #12 Setra coach.
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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Well usually when something we have not seen before appears another one comes along soon after.......
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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SMS88 wrote:
motorman wrote:Sorry, but i dont buy this guys,

All of a sudden an SF#19 matchbox promo purporting to be 40 years old, for a Doughnut company (probably American....which is confusing considering it's a british racing car) turns up in DENMARK (even more confusing, where's the connection?), no other examples have ever been seen or even talked about in collector circles or on Matchbox forums to my knowledge, and yet the general concensus appears to be that it's the real deal.

It just doesn't add up.
It adds up perfectly. Rivits plus paint plus sticky tape. Paint appears to be a perfect match for the yellow version of the #12 Setra coach.
Mick, yes of coarse the sticky tape is the clincher, :lol:

With the greatest of respect, just because you say it's the real deal doesnt mean we should all accept that opinion.

It is utterly inconceivable that this so called promo has been around for over 40 years with no mention of it in any matchbox circles until now!!!

C'mon seriously, let's see another example of this promo!!
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SMS88 wrote::D I love saturdays
SMS88...and what about the Rolls Royce W/GPW :o what a great Saturdays indeed ;)
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gpwcollector wrote:
SMS88 wrote::D I love saturdays
SMS88...and what about the Rolls Royce W/GPW :o what a great Saturdays indeed ;)
I havent shown the other stuff I bought yet!
I will email the Yum Yum company, an American friend on FB has told me tonight that when he was a kid there was a low budget version of Mars Bar made by Yum Yum with rust coloured letters on a yellow background which if confirmed by email from the Yum Yum company will be enough for me given that the other stuff from the collection this car came from.
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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SMS88 wrote:
gpwcollector wrote:
SMS88 wrote::D I love saturdays
SMS88...and what about the Rolls Royce W/GPW :o what a great Saturdays indeed ;)
I havent shown the other stuff I bought yet!
I will email the Yum Yum company, an American friend on FB has told me tonight that when he was a kid there was a low budget version of Mars Bar made by Yum Yum with rust coloured letters on a yellow background which if confirmed by email from the Yum Yum company will be enough for me given that the other stuff from the collection this car came from.
Yet another first!

Sorry Mick but why haven't we heard of this promo before?? Better watch this american friend of yours is not producing these promo's in his garage!!
Again i ask you where are the other examples in existance???????????????

What a successful promo this must have been???
This must have been a mighty success for the "YUM YUM" company, seeing as these promo's are so common place.

Not convincing in the slightest Mick.

Cant wait to see your other stuff!!! Dont tell me .....Is it more promos we have never heard of before in over 4 decades????
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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motorman wrote:
SMS88 wrote:
I havent shown the other stuff I bought yet!
I will email the Yum Yum company, an American friend on FB has told me tonight that when he was a kid there was a low budget version of Mars Bar made by Yum Yum with rust coloured letters on a yellow background which if confirmed by email from the Yum Yum company will be enough for me given that the other stuff from the collection this car came from.
Yet another first!

Sorry Mick but why haven't we heard of this promo before?? Better watch this american friend of yours is not producing these promo's in his garage!!
Again i ask you where are the other examples in existance???????????????

What a successful promo this must have been???
This must have been a mighty success for the "YUM YUM" company, seeing as these promo's are so common place.

Not convincing in the slightest Mick.

Cant wait to see your other stuff!!! Dont tell me .....Is it more promos we have never heard of before in over 4 decades????
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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SMS88 wrote:I will email the Yum Yum company, an American friend on FB has told me tonight that when he was a kid there was a low budget version of Mars Bar made by Yum Yum with rust coloured letters on a yellow background which if confirmed by email from the Yum Yum company will be enough for me given that the other stuff from the collection this car came from.
Why not ask them about the promotional racing car instead (or even as well)?
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Re: New variation SF19 F1 Lotus

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Comparing me to Christine??, well that is a new one, and one that i take as a personal insult, I may have misread your post but to throw mud like that is just not on, thanks Mick.

I still recon that i have some justification in not rolling out the bunting too early. Deep down i hope this is the real deal as it would make it one of the rarest SF's to be found in recent years however i dont see what is wrong with asking for some proof to support the theory that this is a genuine promo. We would as a forum expect any new find to have its authenticity tested thoroughly and commented upon prior to any one giving it the thumbs up.
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