motorman wrote:
Hugh, the lack of paint is not a concern,
I know that this car is 100% genuine. I also have 2 Manhalter versions of this beemer and both of these also have no paint on the rivets. My orange beemers on the other hand do have paint on their rivets.
Could you please be a little more forthcoming as to why you are so sure this particular example is genuine?
(Interesting about the rivets. Does that indicate a change in the painting regime, I wonder?)
motorman wrote:
Hugh, the lack of paint is not a concern,
I know that this car is 100% genuine. I also have 2 Manhalter versions of this beemer and both of these also have no paint on the rivets. My orange beemers on the other hand do have paint on their rivets.
Could you please be a little more forthcoming as to why you are so sure this particular example is genuine?
What car are you refering to Hugh?, the green beemer that Numi has asked about or my Manhalter version that i posted the images of the base rivets from. If it is my Manhalter i have had this in my possession for nearly 30 years i was gifted this in the early 80's in Groningen in Holland whilst on a school exchange holiday from the father of the dutch contact i was staying with. He had an extensive collection of BMW related memorabilia and drove one of the superb looking original 6 series beemers. I expressed an interest in his collection and he enjoyed showing off all the different models and BMW paraphenalia that he had. At the end of my 2 week exchange the father gave me an SF#45 Manhalter Beemer as a parting gift. I have no reason to consider that this is anything but original.
I think we're talking at cross-purposes.
I thought you were saying that you were certain that the metallic green model was genuine. However, on rereading the posts, I think you are probably referring to your own models, in which case my apologies.
Nevertheless, the paint-free rivets in your photographs are interesting, especially since you say that all of the orange BMWs have painted ones.
Thanks for clearing that up Hugh, yes i was refering to my #45 "Manhalter"
It is interesting that these white beemers have little or no paint residue on the rivet and i am unable to explain why that should be.
Coincidently I have also today finally received a box from Vectis containing my winning lots from Matchbox 33 Auction. One of the lots i won was a SF#45 white Polizie model with blue dome light. It also has rivets which have no obvious paint residue.
To be honest i cannot provide an explanation as to why the white #45 variants have cleaner rivets than the standard orange ones. Perhaps Mick can help on that one?
If we set aside the question of whether the metallic green model is actually genuine or not, can we conclude that it cannot be a pre-production because it has unpainted rivets, the argument being that all standard production BMWs have painted ones? That being so, if it is genuine, then it must be a colour trial.
Hugh,
Just to murky the waters even further, Christian has a very similar example of a #45 pre pro in metallic green on his web site, albiet the model he has featured has a far more convincing shade of green, infact it looks very close to the same shade of green metallic used on the SF#13 baja buggy, whereas the Green #45 listed on e bay has a very day glow green which looks very modern. (just my thoughts).
I had a further look at the ebay listing and in one of the images of the box (which i thought looked like a repro) there is a price label attached with a what looks like the wording "DAIMARC", i then did a bit more research on the interweb and discovered a Brazilian Shop Franchise called DAIMARC COMERCIAL LTDA ME
Even if this was a Brazilian issue - wouldnt it of have had marks from the tab, I don't see such in this one? I also think some brazilians have the 'Made in England' lettering removed aswell?
I think at least some Brazilians just had a sticky label over the base, in which case it could have been peeled off and any residue removed using e.g. petrol.
